Stats Request: The Moomo Williwaw

[director_slayton]

I've been trying to find the write up for the ship "Moomo Williwaw" from the Knights of the Old Republic series and the really cool Era Guide conversion for the general class of gunship that it is-I'm curious if anyone could help with the stats for the ship?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Moomo_Williwaw

The Saga stats for it was in KOTOR Web Enhancement number 8 which is currently archived here:

http://web.archive.org/web/20090602013313/http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=starwars/article/KOTORweben8

As always, please pardon the mess Superior Sirs.

[cheshire]

I can get on this sometime this week, I think. I've got my parents in town, but as soon as I get a bit of time between them and work I'll give this a shot!
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Before we take any of this too seriously, just remember that in the middle episode a little rubber puppet moves a spaceship with his mind.

[cheshire]

Wow. Big bag of redundant weapons and no hyperdrive. Straaaaaange design on that one.

[Raven Redstar]

The Moomos were idiots... I'm not surprised that their ship is a giant gun from looney toons.
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[Bren]

Are the weapons single shot or something?

Otherwise I struggle to understand why a pilot would need a choice of

• Heavy Laser Cannon
  
• Laser Cannon
  
• Light Laser Cannon
  
• Medium Blaster Cannon
  
• Another Medium Double Blaster Cannon
  
• Light Blaster Cannon

Not to mention a choice between a proton torpedo launcher and a concussion missile launcher.

If the pilot fires all the forward weapons that he controls it pretty much guarantees (-6D MAPs) a spectacular set of misses along with a piloting mishap when flying anywhere except empty space.

[Crimson_red]

"this craft is crazily modified at the request of Baron Karoll "The Mad" Cilarnus"

"The Moomo Williwaw -- one of the most unusual ships in the galaxy -- is operated by the unusually dense Moomo brothers."

Well it is consistent, being modified for a mad nobleman and a pair of idiots. The write up also implies, beyond the two dedicated heavy laser cannon turrets that some of these weapons were also turreted and controlled from the corresponding cockpits. There could be more than just the pilot/copilot stations with access to many of these weapon even if the crew listing doesn't follow through... if I recall correctly, SAGA doesn't put too big of an effort to distinguish turrets from fixed weapons...

"The ship's unique dual cockpits are intended to direct the gunnery turrets on each side of the ship. However, the Moomo Brothers typically take position in each of the cockpits, then fight over helm control as the ship careens through space."

It's a mess any which way you look at it though, lol, it isn't even a useful variation of weapons, just more of the same at varying strengths. lol.

EDIT: At least when deriving the base stats, we can strip some of those weapons out and give it a more reasonable control scheme. The duel cockpits is an interesting approach when not being abuse like above...

[Crimson_red]

I looked up the stock stats in the KotOR Source book, and it only comes with:
• 2 heavy laser cannons (turrets?) each with its own gunner,
• 2 Laser cannons, presumably one for the pilot and one for the copilot,
(all weapons capable of autofire if that makes a difference)
• 10 tons of cargo space, but also has "numerous built-in weapon mounts and power supply conduits" all to make it easier to install more weapons (+5 equipment bonus to Mechanical roles to install new weapon systems),
• Only 1 Week consumables

You can find an entry on the stock ship here:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Pelagia_Duplex_Command_Assault_Gunship

[Bren]

The picture that was in the link that the OP provided has what appears to be a central cockpit and two side gunnery stations - rather than two cockpits. But I suppose unlike the usual set up of dual gunnery controls in the cockpit, you could have dual piloting controls in the gunnery stations - and then fight over who's on first.

[Crimson_red]

Looking at the pictures, that is how I would lay it out; central cockpit for the pilot(s) with the two side cockpits controlling four turrets, each with its own gunner. That would also work with the five crew, 1 dedicated pilot and 4 gunners. The stuff sticking out of the front of the side cockpits, looking like fixed weapons, could be sensor and targeting equipment and extra weapon mounts.

Even the image of a 'stock' model (assuming that is what it is) seems to have atleast 5 turrets/turret mountings with probably a couple more underneath... random thought, sorry.

Given how little cargo space this ship has, plus the pre-installed weapon mountings, I might also halve the tonnage costs of any weapons being installed...

[cheshire]

It isn't a bad idea to have a pilot and a gunner, but each with redundant controls. I believe that there are even a few U.S. military helicopters with that sort of mentality. Such designs can suffer considerable damage before completely being taken out of the fight. However, usually the operators have a bit more clear idea of who is supposed to be in control of what before they start the mission than would these brothers, by the sound of it.
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Before we take any of this too seriously, just remember that in the middle episode a little rubber puppet moves a spaceship with his mind.

[director_slayton]

You'll get no arguement from me about the Moomo Brother's being gun-happy idoits but to survive in their profession, true?

Thank you for the help, Cheshire.
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