Baudo Class Yacht - Deckplan

[tetsuoh]

Okay guys I'm in a quandary - I've found two different deckplans that seem to be on different scales but in fact aren't - not really anyway.

Theres this one that I've become accustomed to -
http://www.bwafer.com/starwars/deckplans/baudodeckplan.gif

And this new one by DarkestSeason on deviantart of a modified version -
http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/333/b/c/baudo_class_yacht_by_thedarkestseason-d33w812.jpg

now my problem is this - the modified by DarkestSeason is amazing - but is evidently slightly longer at 36meters yet seems to not have the space of the earlier version designed to carry the 8 passenger allotment of the stock version.

that didn't seem like an issue until I noticed why - the earlier version is missing something that dark included - the engine room.

The earlier version (anyone know who did this?) places passenger suites there instead. Now this wouldn't be too much of an issue if the ship had a maintenance bay on a lower level - but it doesn't by this set of plans.

I'm going to be attempting to modify Season's version to hold the 8 passenger allotment - AND attempt to reinstate the jacuzzi and lounge with their sliding viewports, all while keeping a space for a maintenance bay and engine room.

In the meantime - what are your guy's thoughts on the subject?

Heres a copy of the original design from the exterior by the weg artists for referance:
http://gioco.net/starwars/ultimosettore/images/starships/baudo_class_star_yacht.png

[CRMcNeill]

I like some of the deckplans found on Colonial Chrome (the source of the first deckplan), but I have found that they have a tendency to go for quantity over quality, making relatively implausible floor plans that do not make realistic use of available internal space on a ship. The Baudo-class is supposed to be a sport yacht; high speed and performance at the cost of interior space. Think of it as the Star Wars equivalent of a cigarette yacht; it may cost a lot of money and move you very quickly from A to B, but that doesn't mean its a comfortable place to stay long term.

IMO, the two bulges on the Baudo's dorsal hull are engine housings, but all the deckplans I have seen convert them into crew quarters, lounge areas, or a swimming pool.

Of the two you presented, I like B better than A, but it's still not my favorite. That would be this one here:



I particularly like the lateral view, showing how the deck fits vertically into the ship's silhouette. However, this version does still have some problems. Regrettably, I am nowhere near gifted enough to generate my own version, but here are some points worth considering.

No matter how good a deckplan is, you can quickly pick out if certain details are neglected. Such as lifeboats. According to several WEG sources, all ships are supposed to have some manner of emergency escape device for all assigned passenger slots (so, if a ship like the Baudo has 1 crew and 8 passengers, it needs to have escape pod seating for 9), yet none of the three deck plans I have seen include escape pods.

Also, as a sport yacht, this ship doesn't need four staterooms with queen-sized beds. With internal space at a premium, there should be double bunks to conserve space. I don't mind a separate suite with a larger bed for the captain/owner, but this ship just doesn't have the space available for room to stretch out. That doesn't mean the bunks won't be as comfortable as money can buy, just that there isn't a lot of room to work with.

Finally (and this is the biggest issue), none of the deckplans seem to take the third dimension into account. Remember that the hull of the Baudo may start out at man-height (or at least normal room height) at the center axis, but that height drops off sharply the further out you go, so the deckplan needs to take that into account.

I have my own ideas for fixes to this deckplan that would fit well with what we know of the ship officially, so if you'd like to hear more, let me know. I'll tell you this, though; I don't think there is any way to make this ship include a pool and staterooms for everyone on board and still have it do what it is meant to do. If you want your characters to fly around in the lap of luxury, put them in a Luxury 3000 or a Starwind. The Baudo is intended to be the space equivalent of a sports car; fast and powerful and cramped.
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[CRMcNeill]

Oh, and here is the exterior image that accompanies that deckplan (courtesy of Frank Bonura's Star Wars Deckplans Alliance):

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[tetsuoh]

I suppose if nothing else, at least that floor plan illustrates that an 8 passenger with a decent engine room can be done.
It may be lacking in some features, like the lounge and galley being nothing more than a bar like area, but at least its scale on bedding and things seems plausible still.

Thoughts to consider as I attempt the redesign at least.

A question to you all - does a second level with a maintenance bay/engine room seem implausible giving the ships dimensions?
Because it seems to me that the ships height would be at least 8 meters from plating to plating.
So I was thinking a ladder down/lift to a second level to access the engine room.

[garhkal]

I have always considered the escape pods to be under those buldges..
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[CRMcNeill]

Duplicate post. You don't need to see this post; it's not the post you're looking for. Move along.
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[tetsuoh]

Yeah thats where I placed my escape pod access was under that dorsal hatch area.

[Lostboy]

This ship looks like the Star bridge class vessel from the game EV Nova.

Google it and you'll see.

[CRMcNeill]

Technically speaking, since EV Nova was released in 2002, and the Baudo was included in a book first published in 1990, it would be more accurate to say that the Starbridge looks like the Baudo, not the other way around. But that's just me being nit-picky. Thank you for the input.
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[tetsuoh]

I had rearranged the central walkway - removing the dejarik table and bench. And placing a cylinder for the escape pod.

I just rethought it after coming back to read while taking a break.

I noticed that I cannot find an escape pod hatch on any of the floor plans so far with the exceptions of the first one I posted which is notably unrealistic.
(and in fact may not be an escape hatch anyway.)

I'm currently sitting back and examining my work, trying to think of way to accomplish it.

I had already come to the conclusion that I would need to exclude passenger space to retain the jacuzzi present in the one floorplan.
And seeing as our version of it at the moment will not have it at the start, have excluded it from my work until I am finished with the current version.

[CRMcNeill]

Honestly, I think it was a mistake to put the passenger capacity at 8 for the stock ship. The Baudo just doesn't have the internal space to carry that many people comfortably. IMO, the modifications done to the Gilded Lily to give it 75 metric tons passenger space probably involved pulling, say, a lounge or a jacuzzi from somewhere (maybe even the dorsal space between the engine bulges), leaving the ship with space for 4 passengers. One of the methods described in Tramp Freighters to earn money is by passenger transport, and a yacht being converted into a transport wouldn't want to sacrifice any more useful space that absolutely necessary.

As far as the escape pods, I went more along the lines of Frank Bonura's PES-550 system:





The way I picture it, there would be two pod launchers: one on either side of the corridor leading to the cockpit from the central lounge. To access the escape pods, a person would open a hatch inset into the wall and climb into a single-seat escape pod, then the pod would be ejected vertically through the dorsal hatch. The first pod's place would then be taken by another pod loaded from a magazine of pods located on the other side of the launch tube from the central corridor, and the process would repeat as needed. Each launcher would have a capacity for, say, six pods (enough for the pilot and all the passengers, plus a few extras).
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[tetsuoh]

my issue isn't what escape pod to use - It's finding the floor room for any at all atm.