Fighting with two lightsabers/two bladed lightsabers

[scott2978]

I looked around a bit but don't see much on this concept. How do you guys run your games where a force user fights with either two lightsabers or a two bladed lightsaber? What have you done to make it different from using one lightsaber?

I've thought about it, and can't find any way that it would be different from just holding one single bladed lightsaber.

EDIT: For that matter, what about using two blasters? Would you just increase the rate of fire and the difficulty?

[garhkal]

One of the simplist rules i have seen is add a further -1d penalty for using the off hand at the same time.
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[Bren]

[scott2978]

I like the idea of a second weapon basically negating one multiple action die penalty. I think a perfect balance to that (or else why not always use two?) is to increase the difficulty by +1 level. So the standard "difficult" for a lightsaber becomes "very difficult".

Maybe my search skills are poor, but I couldn't find any threads about fighting with two lightsabers. Would you mind posting links for me if it's not too much trouble?

[Kaloth Varsk]

The word "here" is linked two posts up.

My preference for the d6 system has always been simplicity. Attacking with two hands is the same as attacking twice with one hand.

[Yinan]

One of the most simple solution i can come up with:
Person wielding 2 weapons makes 1 attack roll and can hit with that up to 2 targets, but the DC check is increased by 10 (also applies if opponent tries to dodge).

So you can either try hitting 1 person 2 times with one attack (the whole thing counts as 1 action), or 2 persons with one attack. You need, effectively, +3D to hit as good as if you only used one weapon (average of 1D is 3.5, so +3D would be 10.5, compensating the +10 penalty). Its difficult to pull off and definitely not something everyone can do, but if it works its pretty good...

[garhkal]

[Lancil]

So how about this?
OK, the penalty for two-weapon fighting should remain the same, 2 attacks in one round = -1d map.

The benefit should come in the initiative of the round.

The way initiative works, I believe, is highest to lowest perception. Declare number of actions to be performed. Apply map's. Perform actions one at a time round robin until the round is over. Repeat until the combat is over.

In two-weapon fighting instead of only performing one of your multiple actions at a time in the round you can make two.

EX: A group of 5 players and a group of gm “bad guys”. Initiative order is p1, p4, gm, p2, p5, p3. P4 declares 2 shots, one with a pistol in each hand (two-weapon fighting). P1 acts first, p4 makes both of his shots at -1 map (instead of just one of them and waiting for the rest of the players and the gm to go first.)

Does this make any sence?

[cheshire]

I've playtested a couple different ways of doing this, and if you try sticking with WEG's general pattern of moving around difficulties, creating specializations and such, it always runs into problems. If you create a separate specialization necessary to get a combat bonus, it winds up being more expensive in the end than just upping your base skill. You can gain experience quickly with the two weapons, but in the end, you probably are going to bump up the base skill too, since you may not always have both weapons.

Moving the difficulty only does a little in the short term. The character is eventually going to get good enough to wield it, and then it's just kind of a freebee.

I've thought of (but not playtested) a way to do this, but I have a feeling that people are not going to like it. I think there should be a way of representing a certain amount of training with multiple weapons including time and CP cost that eventually results in an acceptable bonus. I think that the person should train with the multiple weapons for at least a month. After the training time they can earn a special ability to allows them to take a second action with their off hand with only a -2 pip MAP, instead of the normal -1D. This could be done at a cost of 10 CPs. After another month (and perhaps another 10 or 15 CP cost), I think they should be awarded the opportunity to advance that special ability to having the first two actions with those weapons (whether defensive or offensive) with no MAP. That is to say, they could attack and parry with their full skill value. If they were to take a third action (whether it be with the weapons or another skill usage) all actions take a -1D MAP.
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[Kaloth Varsk]

One of the things I always liked about the d6 system for Star Wars was the simplicity. It kept things moving fast, and minimized min/maxing of characters. Pretty much every suggestion I've seen here does the opposite of those two things.

[Fallon Kell]

What about +1D to attack, -1D to defense and/or damage?

Using a sword one-handed gives you a massive decrease in leverage, so when you need strength as opposed to speed, you're at a disadvantage.
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[garhkal]

I know a while back, someone proposed an Advanced skill for dual wielding.
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[Bren]

[Phalanks Balas]

try form Jar'Kai
http://d6holocron.com/wiki/index.php?title=STAR_WARS_RPG_%E2%80%93_Lightsaberforms
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