Limited Number of Jumps

[tetsuoh]

Can I get a description on how the starfighters limited number of jumps works.

I've been looking - are they supposed to be the number of trips o the number of legs of a trip? (the number of hyperspace activations?)

I've been trying to get this figured out, but can't find the answer in the books.

And before you ask, no I have never had to worry about this before - I've never really owned or operated the ships in our previous campaigns - I've always just been a mechanic - or the muscle. And numerous campaigns we bought our way around.

Edit: on this same note - astomechs come programmed with jumps - I imagine these are pre-programmed routes, but do they even need to roll astrogation then to link it to the ship or no?

[Mikael Hasselstein]

[Fallon Kell]

So far as I know, generally hyperspace trips don't occur in legs. A starfighter with three jumps might have the target destination jump, the jump back home, and the jump from the target to the alternate rendezvous site all programmed in.

A freighter with a limited number of jumps might have one jump to the destination, and one jump to a good safe hiding place from either end of the journey programmed in.
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[Bren]

[garhkal]

How i have seen it is that ship X (say a trio of B wings or the like) have up to 10 preprogrammed jumps..
Site a.
Site B
Waypoint C through F
Alternate G and H
and so on.

This allows for quicker plotting (by the RAW having coordinates still requires a roll, but in one min at an easier diff)..
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[CRMcNeill]

I'm betting that Zahn just made the assumption that Luke could use Instinctive Astrogation (or some variant thereof) to render a navcomputer superfluous. Considering the near-precognitive nature of some Jedi abilities, allowing a Jedi to plot a hyperspace jump by "feel" (ala the Guild Navigators of the Dune series) is not too much of a stretch.

Also, with regards to the original post, IIRC, the Y-Wing Longprobe was a dedicated scout that replaced the gunner's seat on the Y-Wing with a full-sized navcomputer with no jump limit.
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[jmanski]

And isn't there a navicomputer attachment for droids in Cynabars? Or am I making things up again...?
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[Whill]

There's rules in RAW for that. Just look at the stat blocks for the Rebel starfighters in R&E (p. 248-249), but yes, it may have been explained better in 1E.

A-wing & B-wing
"Nav Computer: Limited to 2 jumps"

X-wing & Y-wing
"Nav Computer: Uses Astromech droid programmed with 10 jumps"

What that means for As & Bs is they have a very limited navicomputer that can only have 2 jumps max pre-programmed into it. Before a mission, they are linked up to a full navicomputer and the 2 jumps are chosen and programmed into the ship. This would presumably be a route from where you take off from to the system you are jumping too, and then your escape route (not always back where you came from - perhaps another system with a base or a ship that picks you up). Then for a different mission two new routes are programmed in replacing the previous ones, and so on. However, if you just went somewhere and back to where you started, you could fly the same routes more than once without having to reprogram the navicomputers.

The Xs and Ys work in a similar way except the ships themselves have no nav computer of even a limited kind. Up to 10 routes are programmed into your astrodroid, and then you have more jumps you can make you can go to and from in-between getting new routes programmed into the droid.

Yes, one way around these limiitations is the Force powers for astrogation. I would also presume that with both the lmited navicomputers and the astrodroids you could still calculate a new jump route at the high difficulties.

One thing I've always allowed is that one pre-programmed jump in a limited navicomputer or astrodroid works both ways, meaning in you could travel from A to B to C to B to A with only 2 jumps programmed.

RAW doesn't go into legs of the journeys and the rules seem to refer to the start and end destination as a jump. I'd say a "jump" is any time you go into and then come out of hyperspace. If you pass through some systems without dropping out of hyperspace to get to others, then it doesn't count as the end of a jump.

But yeah if the # of jumps in RAW is too limited for your game than modify your starfighters or astrodroids and bump up the programmed jump capacity number.

EDIT: With the preprogrammed routes there still had to be some astrogation so a roll should have to be made somewhere along the way, if not on the ship than when the jumps are programmed into the navicomputer/droid.
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[Bren]

[garhkal]

[jmanski]

There is the method of having a ship with a navicomputer plot the course and transmit it to the unequipped ships. That was in one of the Zahn books.
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[Bren]

[ZzaphodD]

Always thought the idea of limited navcomputers was a bit dodgy, given the fact that a navcomputer costs almost nothing according to GG6..

So I never used that rule..
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[garhkal]

[jmanski]

Then you encrpt it. Or, alternatively, you add 1 to each number or some such thing.
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