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tetsuoh
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 Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:26 am Post subject: Clone troopers or stormtrooper template? |
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| does anyone know if there is an official one? I'm looking but its a lot of books |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:23 am Post subject: Re: Clone troopers or stormtrooper template? |
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| tetsuoh wrote: | | does anyone know if there is an official one? I'm looking but its a lot of books |
I don't know if there is an actual stormtrooper template (as in character sheet), but stormtrooper stats can be found in multiple books, including the 2R&E Sourcebook, the Star Wars Sourcebook, the Imperial Sourcebook, the Movie Trilogy Sourcebook and Rules of Engagement. That may not be what you are looking for, but it could give you some starting points for making up your own...
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garhkal
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| Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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Even taking a gander in the Heroes and Rogues book, i see lots of imp templates, but nothing based on the storm trooper
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That's because, officially, stormtroopers were completely loyal the the Emperor and could never be made to betray him. Thus, no template from WEG's time period will ever include a stormtrooper for a player to play.
The whole "stormtroopers can flee from the Empire" didn't come about until after WEG really lost its ability to put material out. So you'll have to make up your own if you want a stormtrooper PC. Thankfully, D6 is easy enough that you can do that with little problem. |
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| There is the "Ex-Imperial Commando" from Heroes & Rogues, you could change the name of it to Storm Trooper, or Ex-Storm Trooper, or something else if you prefer. For the most part, you're just looking for a decent attribute spread along with appropriate skills for an Imperial Shock Trooper. Blaster, Dodge, Grenade, Brawling, Intimidation, Search, etc... I find that just changing the name of a template and coming up with your own backstory, personality and quote is the fastest and easiest way to get what you're looking for. |
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| Grimace wrote: | | That's because, officially, stormtroopers were completely loyal the the Emperor and could never be made to betray him. Thus, no template from WEG's time period will ever include a stormtrooper for a player to play. |
| garhkal wrote: | | Even taking a gander in the Heroes and Rogues book, i see lots of imp templates, but nothing based on the storm trooper |
Right. In WEG's 1995 supplement Heroes & Rogues, Chapter Two is "Roleplaying Imperials" which gives suggestions for running campaigns for Imperial characters. That chapter also has 17 PC templates loyal to the Empire, including CompForce Assault Trooper, Ground Assault Vehicle Commander, and TIE Fighter Pilot. I can think of no reason WEG couldn't have also included an Elite Stormtrooper template along with all those other templates loyal to the Empire. It's a bit of head-scratcher that they didn't include a stormtrooper template when they had the perfect chance to in that book.
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tetsuoh
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That was our thought. Why isn't there?
I ended up using the ex-imperial template. |
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The only reason for them not creating a stormtrooper template that I can think of is that they also say that stormtroopers are servants of the Empire, and therefore can be killed by Jedi's etc. without worrying about Dark Side points (unless they enjoy doing it, of course).
Therefore they may have wanted to avoid bluring the line between "It's ok, they are evil" and "Stormtroopers are people too, you know".
Just a guess is all, and naturally all falls down when they've created templates for other Imperial and ex-Imperials.
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| Urban Spaceman wrote: | | Therefore they may have wanted to avoid bluring the line between "It's ok, they are evil" and "Stormtroopers are people too, you know". |
Good point. Although, personally I tend to classify the CompForce folks as actively evil and the Stormtroopers as heavily conditioned clones.
One of the 'villains' my young Jedi PC found the most annoying and troublesome was a 10 year old SAGroup kid that my PC rescued. The ungrateful little 'scamp' then promptly turned my PC in to the authorities. Couldn't damage or hurt him since he was "just a kid" and thus very frustrating for my (fairly self-righteously good) PC and great fun for the GM to throw at him.  |
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There is an unofficial template for Clone Troopers in the Clone Wars sourcebook conversion. Basically, it treats them like a alien race, with upper and lower limits to reflect that they are clones of Jango Fett. It's not bad.
I did up a couple of templates (ground trooper, clone pilot, clone mediic, etc.) for my campaign based on the Clone Trooper PC "template".
One problem with offical Stormtrooper stats is that WEG kept changing the offical stats for Stromtroopers. Each edition had different stats. |
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garhkal
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If you wish, maybe i can whip one up.
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Keep in mind as well that Stormtroopers almost never work alone, they're almost always part of a group of stormies. With this in mind, a template for a lone Stormtrooper is a little out of place. That could be part of why there wasn't an official WEG template.
That said, there's no real reason not to make one. Here's an immediate quick stab:
Dexterity 3D+2
Blaster
Brawling parry
Melee combat
Melee parry
Dodge
Grenade
Blaster artillery
Running
Knowledge 2D+1
Intimidation
Mechanical 2D+2
Communications
Repulsorlift operations
Beast riding
Perception 3D+1
Command
Search
Persuasion
Investigation
Strength 3D
Brawling
Stamina
Lifting
Technical 3D
Armor repair
Blaster repair
Demolitions
First aid
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I always figured there wasn't a Stormtrooper template because STs were supposed to be the Emperor's elite troops, shock troops if you will, so it always seemed justified that such a character type would be for NPC only. Their conditioning and loyalty to the Emperor suggests they would be unsuitable for PCs.
But that was just us... 
Ankhanu, those stats look interesting, would be interested as well in anyone else's interpretations...
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| TyCaine wrote: | | I always figured there wasn't a Stormtrooper template because STs were supposed to be the Emperor's elite troops, shock troops if you will, so it always seemed justified that such a character type would be for NPC only. Their conditioning and loyalty to the Emperor suggests they would be unsuitable for PCs. |
But it's so fun to be bad guys from time to time. 
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Azai
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So I just wanted to ask a quick question about templates, as I've never used them, and since we are all on the subject...
When it lists like this
Dexterity 3D+2
Blaster
Brawling Parry
Melee Combat
Etc
Are they suggestive skills? Or does this template come with all those skills 1D above attribute? |
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