View previous topic :: View next topic |
Author |
Message |
Riij Skootu Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 06 May 2010 Posts: 110 Location: Ohio
|
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 10:11 am Post subject: a different old republic flagship |
|
|
I looking for a new kind of flagship for the end of the Clone Wars era. Like taking a V-19 starfight shape into a cruiser class.
Anyone have any ideas what would make a good one? _________________ Do or Do Not ...there is no try. -Yoda |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Riij Skootu Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 06 May 2010 Posts: 110 Location: Ohio
|
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:13 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Here are some thoughts I had:
#1.)
BB 2 Starfire
#2.)
Corona Class Armed Frigate
#3.)
Mankvim 814 Light Interceptor
I like their shape. So thought about just increasing their size. Maybe not the frigate. But nonetheless, I'd love to hear your thoughts on the subject. _________________ Do or Do Not ...there is no try. -Yoda |
|
Back to top |
|
|
jmanski Arbiter-General (Moderator)
Joined: 06 Mar 2005 Posts: 2065 Location: Kansas
|
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:04 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I think 3 would look good "blown up". _________________ Blasted rules. Why can't they just be perfect? |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Fallon Kell Commodore
Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 1846 Location: Tacoma, WA
|
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:20 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I could see the V-19 making a viable capital ship if you were to enlarge the engines and move them in closer to the "cockpit", make a bridge to sit atop the "cockpit", extend some hull forward from the center, and maybe remove the hinges from the wings and thicken them. _________________ Or that excessively long "Noooooooooo" was the Whining Side of the Force leaving him. - Dustflier
Complete Starship Construction System |
|
Back to top |
|
|
CRMcNeill Director of Engineering
Joined: 05 Apr 2010 Posts: 16326 Location: Redding System, California Sector, on the I-5 Hyperspace Route.
|
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:08 am Post subject: |
|
|
Another thing to consider is that form follows function. If you want a flagship to be big and tough and carry lots of starfighters and troops and heavy weaponry, then it needs to have some volume to it. Something like the V-19 would have to be massive to have the internal volume necessary to function as a capital ship.
Usually if I want a new and unique capital ship, I do a Google Image Search for space ship or starship or something and look for something "Star Wars-ish". It may take a bit to find something that works for you, but IMO it works better in the long run. _________________ "No set of rules can cover every situation. It's expected that you will make up new rules to suit the needs of your game." - The Star Wars Roleplaying Game, 2R&E, pg. 69, WEG, 1996.
The CRMcNeill Stat/Rule Index
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
Fallon Kell Commodore
Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 1846 Location: Tacoma, WA
|
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 3:35 am Post subject: |
|
|
crmcneill wrote: | Another thing to consider is that form follows function. If you want a flagship to be big and tough and carry lots of starfighters and troops and heavy weaponry, then it needs to have some volume to it. Something like the V-19 would have to be massive to have the internal volume necessary to function as a capital ship. |
Heh, I know what you mean. I went through a "mostly flat" starship design phase several years ago. The ships looked cool, but as soon as I tried to figure out what was inside of them, I realized they were impossible.
If you're scaling up a starfighter, though, as a starting point, your only real lost space is probably going to end up in the wings. Starfighters tend to be densely constructed with large engines and exposed weapons, so they scale up nicely. Consider the similar aspect ratio between an A-wing and a Marauder Corvette, or an X-wing (less the wings) and a Carrack cruiser. Heck, remove the wings from a TIE fighter and scale it up and you have a Death Star. _________________ Or that excessively long "Noooooooooo" was the Whining Side of the Force leaving him. - Dustflier
Complete Starship Construction System |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Riij Skootu Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 06 May 2010 Posts: 110 Location: Ohio
|
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 8:27 am Post subject: |
|
|
crmcneill wrote: | Usually if I want a new and unique capital ship, I do a Google Image Search for space ship or starship or something and look for something "Star Wars-ish". It may take a bit to find something that works for you, but IMO it works better in the long run. |
I will do that as well thank you for the idea. _________________ Do or Do Not ...there is no try. -Yoda |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Fallon Kell Commodore
Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 1846 Location: Tacoma, WA
|
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 12:43 am Post subject: |
|
|
Riij Skootu wrote: | I looking for a new kind of flagship for the end of the Clone Wars era. Like taking a V-19 starfight shape into a cruiser class.
Anyone have any ideas what would make a good one? |
How's this?
I used the modifications I talked about above. Fallon Kell wrote: | I could see the V-19 making a viable capital ship if you were to enlarge the engines and move them in closer to the "cockpit", make a bridge to sit atop the "cockpit", extend some hull forward from the center, and maybe remove the hinges from the wings and thicken them. |
Obviously, I added/changed a couple of other details in the drawing stage, too. _________________ Or that excessively long "Noooooooooo" was the Whining Side of the Force leaving him. - Dustflier
Complete Starship Construction System |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Bren Vice Admiral
Joined: 19 Aug 2010 Posts: 3868 Location: Maryland, USA
|
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 5:00 am Post subject: |
|
|
Many of the 200m+ ships have more than two engines. How large is this ship supposed to be? |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Riij Skootu Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 06 May 2010 Posts: 110 Location: Ohio
|
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:41 am Post subject: |
|
|
Another idea. I was watching an old Babylon 5 episode involving the First Ones. I really liked this ship.
It got me thinking. What if I made the Jedi Shuttle into a capital size ship?
So my question is, do you think if I made it about 1200 meters would it be large enough for a decent size docking bay? Or is it too thin? _________________ Do or Do Not ...there is no try. -Yoda |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Bren Vice Admiral
Joined: 19 Aug 2010 Posts: 3868 Location: Maryland, USA
|
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:57 am Post subject: |
|
|
You would have to change the cockpit. It clearly looks sized for 2-6 people max. Which sets the scale of the entire ship.
Alternately, if you like B5 try using a Centauri warship. IIR it has a somewhat similar look to the shuttle. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Riij Skootu Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 06 May 2010 Posts: 110 Location: Ohio
|
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:58 am Post subject: |
|
|
Yeah I was thinking of removing the cockpit entirely to make it look more like the B5 ship.
I had thought about the Minbari Sharlin Warcuiser but in my mind it is so classic, I just couldn't.
It would be like saying I made the first Super Star Destroyer or something. _________________ Do or Do Not ...there is no try. -Yoda |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Fallon Kell Commodore
Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 1846 Location: Tacoma, WA
|
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 8:25 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Bren wrote: | Many of the 200m+ ships have more than two engines. How large is this ship supposed to be? |
Indeterminate size of at least 200 meters. There could be supplementary engines between the two main ones, just recessed. The main ones could even be clusters of smaller ones, if you wanted.
Riij Skootu wrote: |
It got me thinking. What if I made the Jedi Shuttle into a capital size ship?
So my question is, do you think if I made it about 1200 meters would it be large enough for a decent size docking bay? Or is it too thin? | you could easily fit fighter bays in that. If you just removed the Cockpit entirely, I'd say that you could use the empty space to dock with larger ships, but if you replaced it, I don't see space for anything rivaling a Star Destroyer's bay. Maybe if you were to bulk up the hull at the base of the dorsal fin... _________________ Or that excessively long "Noooooooooo" was the Whining Side of the Force leaving him. - Dustflier
Complete Starship Construction System |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Riij Skootu Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 06 May 2010 Posts: 110 Location: Ohio
|
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 10:59 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I may have just found the ship.
I was just wandering around surfing the net for different pictures. And found this wonderful gem.
I'd say it is at least 1600 meters. Regardless I think I am in love. _________________ Do or Do Not ...there is no try. -Yoda |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Bren Vice Admiral
Joined: 19 Aug 2010 Posts: 3868 Location: Maryland, USA
|
Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 6:34 am Post subject: |
|
|
Sweet. 8) |
|
Back to top |
|
|
|