Can Jedi get Married?

[Stule]

Ok,

Do you guys think Jedi should be able to marry?

I know Luke does in the EU, but I feel that Marriage would open a Jedi to the Darkside.

If a villian captures, torture, or kills the Jedi's wife, I would think (at least for most of us) that the Jedi would be enraged and seek revenge.

I notice in EPI - EPIII that the Jedi's lived like Monks.

No wives, relationship with opposite sex, etc..

So what do you guys think?

Should they be able to be married?

[Esjs]

I've thought about this too... but I was mostly concerned with the concept of Jedi offspring. Do Jedi "younglings" not come from one or more Jedi parents? According to Anakin in Ep. II, "attachment is forbidden," which fits with the "live like monks" comment.

So, are Jedi "younglings" in the Old Republic born from normal parents? Well then why did Qui-Gon ask Shmi who Anakin's father was?

I'll be one of the first to admit that the Stars Wars movies are riddled with inconsitencies.

In my opinion, yes, Jedi should be able to take a spouse. (Maybe just stay away from those political figures, huh? ).

[Stule]

See, I don't think they should be allowed to get married.

I think marriage leads to the darkside.

As many fights that most married couples have, that would promote anger.

Then their is the trust issue.
When one spouse has to trust another.
That leads to jealousy.

When they are apart, that leads to sadness.

I just think that there are way too many emotions involved for Jedi to be married.

That's why in EPI - EPIII, there are no Jedi that are married.

Anyone have any other thoughts?

[Hellcat]

I disagree. I think the Jedi Order as seen in the prequels is to distant from the common man and has no understanding of what being a part of a family means. Being married and having a family could lead to the dark side, but it doesn't have to. Not if the Jedi doesn't allow themselves to be ruled by their emotions. By having a family a Jedi actually understands better the concerns normal people have for their own families and their wish to keep them safe.
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[Orgaloth]

By the movies it is unclear if they are allowed to marry. Obviously Anikin wasn't, but in the Tales of the Jedi, Nomi Sunrider (I think that's her name) was married to a jedi, and had a kid.
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[Hellcat]

Nomi's not the only example from TotJ to point out. The Cathar mate for life and two of Master Vodo-Siosk Baas's students with Cathar, Crado and Sylvar. And they were life mates, which basically is the same as being married for the Cathar.
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[Orgaloth]

So I guess that says that yes Jedi can marry, generally to other jedi.
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[Hellcat]

Nomi didn't become a Jedi until after her husband died, though Andur thought she should train. Both figured Andur would train their daughter, but it wasn't meant to be.
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[Warhippo]

Supposedly attachment is prohibited BUT Yoda says that he will miss Chewbacca and the other guys when he leaves them towards the end of EP3.

[Lord Ben]

I'd probably venture to guess it's looked down on but not forbidden.

[MA-3PO]

I think one of the big reasons against Jedi marrying were the possible development of a Jedi ruling line. They didn't want anything like that to be established.

[Stule]

So during the Tales of the Jedi and Knights of the Old Republic Era Jedi were allowed to marry.

And during EPI - EPVI they were not (Obi-wan: :"You will be expelled from the Jedi Order!" Ana-whinner: "I can't leave her!.").

Then Luke marries Mara Jade in EU.

I really think Anakin proves why Jedi shouldn't marry. Marriage brings about turbulent emotions that would try even the devoutest saint, much less a Jedi. Being a Jedi is about being in control of your emotions and being at peace. After 10 years of marriage myself (still happily), I can tell you that there is nothing peaceful about a marriage, even the one I have (which is an awesome one - she's a gem). Sure, the Jedi during EPI - EPIII were distanced from the public and kept a tight reign on their feelings, but look what happened when they didn't. During Tales of the Jedi, we get the Sith becasue a group wanted to experiment with the Darkside and the Jedi didn't allow it. The group went out, conqured a planet, and after a few thousand years, they attacked the republic.

I think that any marriage that involves a Jedi (let alone two) is incredibly dangerous, and I think a little green muppet would agree with me.

[JonnyBot]

[Kehlin Yew]

Anakin's whole darkside thing was kinda predetermined. Maybe it didn't really matter if people were married before the trilogy, but during and after, the only two jedi to marry - ended up turning darkside and then comind back.
Maybe not because of his spouse, but Luke did go darkside...


(and i still think Luke is evil.... he has his temple on a riddled with sith tombs and temples O_O) evil i tell you.... EVIL

[Stule]

Jonnybot,

As I said before, the Council of EPI - EPIII did not allow marriages becasue they were afraid of the very thing that happened to Anakin. I am not saying that all Jedi couldn't handle it, but most couldn't.

In the EU, during the Tales of the Jedi Era, Jedi were allowed to marry and have offspring. And for most this was fine.

Until they had that whole Sith thing.
And that wasn't becasue of the marriages but it was from the attitude that you could do whatever you want.

During the Republic Era (EPI - EPIII), the Jedi decided not to even take the chance with Marraiges or even relationships anymore.

As far as I knew, they couldn't even have sex!

In the New Republic Era, Luke decides that it is ok and decides to do it (and if I was a Jedi and had the chance to marry Mara Jade, I would too!).

Restrictions were losser in the Tales of the Jedi Era.
Restrictions were tighter in the Republic Era.
Restrictions were almost non-existant in the New Republic Era.

And one more thing....
The Council during the Republic Era FORBADE Marriage!
PERIOD!

EPII+III: Their Marriage was kept a secret, becasue if found out, Anakin would be EXPELLED and Padame.....what did she do again?

EPII: OBI-Wan: "YOU WILL BE EXPELLED FROM THE JEDI ORDER!"

That last sentence doesn't say suspended, fine, or any other type of punishment.
It says EXPELLED!
KICKED OUT!
NO MORE LIGHTSABER PRIVALLEGES FOR YOU, JEDI!

They forbade Marriage.
Why?

Just ask Darth Vader.

The Sith themselves were created becasue the Jedi had a do whatever you want policy. They allowed their Jedi to expierience emotions, which lead to the creation of the Sith.

The Republic Jedi decided that they needed to tighten up on the rules or suffer another Sith War (They had like 3 Sith Wars). Unfortunately for them, doing this lead Anakin right into the Darkside. Anakin showed that a Jedi can be married. He also showed that a Jedi can also let his emotions rule him when it comes to his spouse.

Marriage is a very turbulent thing. Anyone that has been married will tell you it takes alot of work. Being a Jedi takes even more work. I find it hard to believe that the two are compatable.

Can Jedi Marry?
Yes.

Should they?
No.

I have to go with the Republic during the EPI - EPIII Era.

Why even take the chance?

(And by the way, Jonnybot is one of my players so if anyone thinks that I am flaming him......your right!)


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Yoda: "Marriage leads to jealousy. Jealousy leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to sufferring."