Melee combat against Stormtroopers

[Purzelkater]

Okay, I'm new to SW D6 and D6 at all. Maybe that's the reason I'm unsure how to handle this:
The players character has spottet 2 Stormtroopers on his escape way in 20 meters distance. The Stormtroppers have seen the character too.
Because the players character is good at melee combat the player would like to run to the troopers and attack them with his electrostaff to knock them out with stun mode.

In terms of D6 the players character has the initiative and declares 3 actions for this round: run to the Stormtroopers, attack the first and attack the second.

Well and here is the problem. After the players characters first action he is in melee combat range, but then it's the Troopers turn. And because the players character was running to them, they can fire their blasters on point-blank. It's always deadly for the players character.

So the question is, how can the players character come close to the Stormtroopers to knock them out without he will be killed first?
I'm not talking about to sneak to the Troopers but about the rules of the combat system.
As an example, on Shadowrun we had the rule, long range weapons can't be used on close (melee) combat.

Kind regards
from Purzelkater

[Whill]

[garhkal]

[Purzelkater]

So I'm right to say, the player should looking for antoher solution (and I have not missed the rules). Thank you!

[MrNexx]

There's a reason why a lot of those "knife v. gun" fights work best when the guy with the knife can step out of cover, rather than run at them.
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[garhkal]

[cheshire]

I think the general tactic in this sort of situation is to be nonchalant and conceal the blade until you're right up on the person. There might be ways of doing a con roll, or a sneak roll to pretend that you're just going to stroll by, or call to the trooper for help until you're in melee range.
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[Random_Axe]

By The Book, if the PC wanted to run the 20m up to the stormtroopers in order to melee attack, it would require a full round to move to melee distance. If the Stormtroopers notice the charge (do a PER check for the troopers) and decide they want to shoot the charging character in that first round, they can (each) do so, and the PC would roll a "full dodge", which is to say, his full dodge dice plus, say, 5 for a short-range shot. Though he is sprinting at the troopers (which is an action in itself), there is no MAP (multi-action-penalty) to the dodge roll, because the RAW states that you get a +1D when rolling a dodge while running. That one full-dodge roll creates the difficulty-number for the troopers to hit him with the blasters that first round.

If he doesn't like the result of his full-dodge roll, he can spend CP's (up to five of them) to gain extra dice to the evasion roll.

In the second round when the PC is finally in melee range, he would (should) declare two melee attacks (at least two) plus a dodge -- because after he takes his first swing at the first trooper, the second trooper gets his first blaster-shot against the PC. Then, assuming the PC either evades or soaks the damage from that first blaster shot, he gets his second melee attack roll against the second trooper. THEN, if he planned ahead for follow-up attacks against either trooper who might have survived that first blap, he would roll his extra melee attacks in the hopes of knocking out the still-standing troopers.

Mechanically it can be done. But you have to be prepared to spend lots of dice for it, and as garkhal noted, it would be much smarter to sneak up into better position without giving away your intent ahead of time.

[shootingwomprats]

I think this really depends on the situation and the GM. Yes it has been discussed before how the Action system and move mechanics can male it impossible to physically hit someone.

There are a couple of ways you could run it.

1. You can suggest that the player close to grapple with one of the Stormtroopers. If he makes the roll by 5+ he is able to grapple Stormtrooper #1 is such a way that Stormtrooper #2 cannot fire at him or gives him a cover modifier (+1D, +2D, maybe even +4D). Heck attach the cover modifier to how well he grapples. 6-10/+1D, 11-15/+2D, 16+/+4D.

Also in this example, if there was a difficulty for the terrain I would allow him to make both the skill checks at the same time: running and brawling, both at -1D.

2. He performs all three actions at once: running, brawling Stormtrooper #1, and brawling Stormtrooper #2. All actions at -2D. Narrate it out like you would in a movie. "Brix looks towards the two Stormtroopers, he sees them start to flex their hand around the triggers if their blaster rifles. Brix drops his shoulder and charges towards them, crossing the 20 meters in an instant. Grabbing the first Stormtrooper he kicks his legs out from under him, sending him crashing to the floor. The second Stormtrooper caught off guard attempts to level his blaster at Brix in the close quarters, but Brix is faster. Striking like a coenathian serpent he knocks the blaster from the Stormtroopers hands."

Running -2D vs Easy terrain (an open landing field, might consider this an automatic action. It does not need to be rolled, but counts as an action).
Brawling -2D vs Moderate difficulty to kick the legs out from under Stormtrooper #1.
Brawling -2D vs Stormtrooper Brawling+2D (to strike the weapon).

Another to keep in mind are two additional rules. 1. All ranged weapons have a minimum distance of 3 meters to use effectively. 2. If a character starts within 20 meters of a target, they may perform one brawling or melee action at the end of the move. This still counts as a declared action.

Just some ideas to consider.
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