advanced skill: martial arts

[Savar]

I was thinking about doing martial arts as an advanced skill.

Requirements: dex, str, per at 3D

First 3D of martial arts learn: punch, kick, and weapon block.

After the 3D then the char can specialize.
If specializing the only techniques available are the ones listed with the specialization.

If not specialized may learn any of the techniques.

The advanced skill dice maybe added to brawling & brawling parry, but techniques can only be used with advanced skill dice.

Am not sure if adding to melee & melee parry would work also, that might be based off of specialization and techniques.

Might make a technique that allows other techniques to be used with weapons if able.

Any thoughts?

[cheshire]

This isn't much different than a model proposed several times over the years. This is probably one of the most common house-ruled modifications to the martial arts system. Granted, the various incarnations have some nuanced differences, but follow a similar pattern.

I was actually working on a D6 Magazine article to develop a little more elaborate Martial Arts rules allowing for variations of styles. However, when I was doing the research on this, it didn't have much traction in terms of community interest, so I put it on the back burner to work on other projects.
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[garhkal]

Can't remember where i saw it, but the best write-up i liked (where it was an A variant) was

(A) Martial arts HTH
Pre-req, brawl and brawl parry 4d
This skill can be used in one of 2 manners. Base hth attacks uses the brawl skill but like with Medicine and first aid the Martial arts adds to your die pool, and IF higher than your strength, sets the base damage done (so if your martial arts is at 5d, and you have only 4d str, you do 5d damage).
Each D of the (A) skill you have, you know ONE technique from RoE. you only use the (A) skill when rolling those techniques, other than the 3 base (punch, kick and weapon block).
If using a technique, the base damage IS the (A) skill value, not your strength, plus the maneuver.
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[Savar]

[Naaman]

The biggest difficulty I have with making advanced combat skills is finding a way for them to work independently of the base skill.

In my opinion, once a character has the advanced skill, it represents their ability to apply the skill in a live situation.

Another thing to consider might be that an advanced skill might have a more specific focus than the base skill. Not so much like a specialization which doesn't improve the effect of the skill, but that each different martial art could have a different focus, making it more effective in specific scenarios.

For example, taking (A) Boxing would allow the character to deal much more damage with their punches, as well as punch faster. However, if the character were grappled or used a kick, he would rely only on his brawling skill.

A character taking (A) Tae Kwon Do might be really good at kicks, but not so great at grappling.

And a mixed martial artist might either have one advanced skill that provides small advantages in all areas, or he might have skill dice in several martial arts at low levels instead of one martial art at high a high level (since the prerequisite for the various marital arts is the same, anyway).

On the other hand, the various martial arts (boxing, tae kwon do, wrestling, etc) might be specializations of the advanced skill which provide their benefits in a specific niche, whereas a mixed martial artist simply chooses not to specialize.

[Savar]

[garhkal]

[Savar]

Hmm, after reading some about using stamina for soak.

Use (A) Martial Arts {up to ?racial strength? as a max(or same as damage base)} for Melee and HtH combat only as a soak.

Maybe that could be a technique.

Basically the char learns to roll with blows, also moving parts of his body that can take more stress to take the blows.

[Naaman]

It seems a little awkward to me... like it needs to be part of some specific style or a technique from some ancient race or something.

[cheshire]

[garhkal]

That is Terais Kai. And doing that use of it, has a downside. In the round you Use that benefit, you get NO reactions, period. SO if you get shot, the one shooting you just has to beat range difficulty. Same with melee/brawl etc.
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