Resisting Dark Side Points? Grey Jedi... Here We Go

[tetsuoh]

Okay guys I know we've had topics like this before.

My group is considering how to work DSP as a Grey Jedi.
Our main idea ATM is allowing a DSP gain from a power that states you gain one from its use to be resisted unless that power is used for an evil action.

Greed? Resist Roll.
Light side or Neutral application of a Dark Power? Resist Roll.

BUT how to do this? By the natural order of RAW AND the EU, Control is where its at. BUT I have seen willpower as well. And what system should be used to resist?

Resist the highest difficulty number with Control? Seems Applicable.
Modify it for its use depending on what style of emotion its being applied in - like how concentration works? I see that to.

But I'll be honest we could go all over the place with this. Does anyone else have a system they already use for us to look at? If so please post or pm me with it.

~Tet

[CRMcNeill]

I'm probably the primary backer of the Willpower method, so anything I have to say would be biased.

EDIT: The short version:

-A character may use certain stereotypically Dark-Side-only powers (specifically, Injure/Kill, Telekinetic Kill, and Telekinesis if used to attack someone), but must moderate the effect to inflict only Stun damage.

-To do this, the character must roll his Willpower against the result of his Control roll to initially use the power. On a Willpower success, any damage inflicted is Stun damage only; on a failure, the power functions as describes, including the application of any Dark Side points.

-If the power in question has no Control roll (such as Telekinesis), roll against the Alter roll instead.

-As such, a character may choose to subtract dice from their initial Control roll, thus decreasing their margin of success to use the power, but increasing the margin of success for their Willpower roll.

-Character and Force Points may be applied to either roll as per the RAW.

-Please remember that this method is not intended to give Light Side Force users carte blanche to use Dark Side powers. Certain powers, including Force Lightning, Drain Life Energy, Transfer Life, Create Force Storms, etc, should be considered thoroughly evil and corrupting, regardless of how strenuously your players argue against it.

Another rule I play with that is on point:
-Once a character has earned a DSP, they can never have less than 1 DSP, no matter how much they atone for it. This represents Yoda's "once you start down the dark path" statement, in that a person who has been tainted will never be fully untainted again.
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[garhkal]

One option for 'grey jedi' is that they need to maintain a balance between their FP and DSP totals. Its only when they get out of balance, they need to worry.
So if you earned one DSP< but have 4 force points, you have 3 points of deviance for that turning to the DSP roll. SO either burn FP to get down, or do stuff to gain more DSPs.
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[Naaman]

I say willpower.

As for G's suggestion with balance between FPs an DSPs, would it be easier to just say that you only worry when DSPs exceed FPs?

After all, FPs represent heroic (i.e. good) actions in line with the Force.

[Savar]

My vote willpower, although i would say some powers are just to evil to resist like transfer life.

[Savar]

[garhkal]

[Jedi Skyler]

Would anyone allow a character to choose between Willpower and Control, whichever is higher? I certainly understand (and agree) that Willpower is definitely applicable. However, I also think that Control, as it relates to the Force within oneself, ought to come into play - especially when the Force user has spent the time to get that skilled with the Force, and have attained such mastery over the Force within themselves, that this should be a factor.

[CRMcNeill]

I considered it, but ultimately decided against it. The core of the mechanic I use, as described above, is based on a Willpower vs. Control roll; rolling Control against itself would seem to defeat the purpose.
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"No set of rules can cover every situation. It's expected that you will make up new rules to suit the needs of your game." - The Star Wars Roleplaying Game, 2R&E, pg. 69, WEG, 1996.

The CRMcNeill Stat/Rule Index

[garhkal]

I can get behind that.
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[Naaman]

I see what you did there, Garhkal. Youre going for one who promotes "grayness" as opposed to just resisting being consumed by the darkside.

[CRMcNeill]

[garhkal]