Stat Blocks and some questions.

[tetsuoh]

I've been looking over the various Stat Blocks or playable Races.

So I've got a few Questions.

Are there rules that the writers used to determine the stats?
It certainly Doesn't seem so by any measure.

Are there any races that have a minimum Stat below 1D?

[Whill]

[tetsuoh]

OKAY.

Well, heres what I got - if this needs to be moved to House Rules then so be it.


Creating a Race Stat Block:

Attribute Dice: Starting total 12D
Attribute Minimum/Maximum: Starting Total 2D/4D

Lowering the Attribute Dice awards 1D per 1D removed from a Race's Attribute Dice.
These Dice may be used toward giving a Race Special Abilities only.

Lowering the Minimum Attribute of a Stat awards 1pip per pip removed from a Race's Minimum.
These Dice may be used toward increasing a Stat Minimum or Maximum.

Lowering the Maximum Attribute of a Stat awards 1pip per pip removed from a Race's Maximum.
These Dice may be used toward increasing a Stat Minimum or Maximum.

Raising a Minimum Attribute of a Stat requires 1pip per pip increase.
Raising a Maximum Attribute of a Stat requires 2pip per pip increase.

Stats MUST always have a difference of at LEAST 1D between their Minimum and Maximum. And may have a difference of no more than TWICE the Stat Minimum.

Example: 2D+2/3D+1 is not legal, 2D+2/3D+2 is legal (1D Difference)
Example: 1D/4D is not legal (1D x 2 = 2D, 2D+1D = 3D not 4D), 2D+2/5D+1 is legal (2D+2 x 2= 4D+4 or 5D+1)

Special Abilities cost a varying amount of pips.

I do not yet have a list worked out for how much different kinds of abilities would cost. Some may in fact award pips because of restrictions placed on the character. I'll work on getting a good list of different abilities wrote up and post them on here for us to discuss what we think they should cost if you guys agree with this system.

I like it because it falls inline with everything being referred to as a Dice total. Specializations are taken from the beginning skill dice, so why not special abilities from Attribute Dice?

I also like this idea for my ideas on Merits and Flaws as an option to PC's, with them cost or awarding pips from the players stat or skill dice.

[Whill]

If that structure works for you, then cool. Thanks for sharing it for everyone. I just try to make the game stats match the fluff text, and then have PCs are a good degree of game-balanced with each other.

[Ankhanu]

IIRC, if a stat is 0D, you still roll the wild die, but only count it on a 6 or 1 special rule. Not 100% on that, though.
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[garhkal]

Page 78 where it discusses multiple actions does not mention whether someone reduced to 0d can still roll just the wild die or not.
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[Ankhanu]

Not reduced to 0, but if one does not have 1D... different.
I'll see if I can find it. It may be one of those things I recall from 2e that's not in R&E.
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[Whill]

Yeah I don't think R&E RAW addresses that.

[Ankhanu]

Ok, I just looked through 2E and didn't see it. Maybe I just made that up... not sure exactly where it came from back in the day, but, it also has never come up as something that needed being addressed in the 20 years I've been playing the game
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[garhkal]

[Ankhanu]

Nah, I started with 2E. Might have been something we'd misread along the way way back when... Might have just been my imagination *shrug*
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[atgxtg]

There are some rules/guidelines for alien creation on pages 4-17 of the Alien Encounters book. They have some nice features -specifically the list of possible abilities. They were created long after most of the species in the RPG were created, though.


Oh, and just a headtails up, but the number of attribute dice can be rolled randomly. So Twi'leks aren't necessarily paying 1D for thier head-tail communication. They could just be getting shafted.

The big worry about the AE book is that a lot of things can be left to random tables, and that can have a big impact on what you end up with. For instance a alien that has some sort of natural weapon might do anywhere from STR to STR+3D damage if you roll on the random table. And the 3D damage doesn't "cost" anymore than just doing STR!

Frankly, what I think should be done is the cost for an ability should be equal to the die bonus. That is STR+3D would cost 3 attribute dice, while justing doing STR damage would be free.

[nuclearwookiee]

[tetsuoh]

That partially the point - to limit that advantage.

And thats not me being an aggressive or anything - its just the fundamental truth that there are no real rules towards species creation at this time and it leads to outrageously bad balance between them.

Not to mention since release almost nothing new has been added to what we know as now being a part of certain races, save for the races added by gry into the alien species collection that we did not have stats for beforehand.

[nuclearwookiee]

I'm in no way critiquing your reasons; I think it's a good idea. But if you want to limit the available dice pool, it should cost "points" to increase max or decrease min, and refund points to increase min or decrease max. If you refund points for decreasing min, you only encourage a larger available dice pool.