Does anyone else ...

[Random_Axe]

... consider the Stokhli Spray-Stick grossly overpowered?

According to the Heir to the Empire sourcebook, it shoots a "spraynet mist" up to two hundred meters. Then it does massive stun damage (more than any blaster weapon). Then it hardens into an immobilizing net stronger than most Wookiees or Gamorreans.

I have a LOT of trouble with this concept. How do they reconcile shooting "a mist" up to two football fields away accurately enough to snag a running target? Then couple it with a knockout zot. Then triple it with a final insult of entangled/immobile?

Moreover, how can any player have ANY other reaction, when their character gets hit by one, other than "Oh come on now. You have GOT to be f***ing kidding me." Seems like a fanboy GM's version of a joke that too many people let go through the publishers' reviews too far before he let them in on it.

[Tinman]

[garhkal]

Which would make the availability code a 4 just for being only available on 1 planet.
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[DougRed4]

Sounds to me like an item that normall is simply considered GM fiat. In other words, "I need the characters captured for this next bit (without really hurting them), so I'll unleash this on them!"
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[Random_Axe]

[Tinman]

[garhkal]

Perhaps change it up with 2 firing methods.
Method one is a mist spray that can hit up to 10m away (deck sweeper style), making a sort of sticky web in front of you.
Method 2 is a projectile that streams out to 200m, and anything in the path that is hit, takes the stun damage/gets caught.
The former is a standard to hit action, but the latter takes a full to hit action (kind of like a full dodge), since he has to stay there holding his spray stick in the direction the stream of goo is going till it reaches the 200m max range.
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[Random_Axe]

[garhkal]

Go for it. Anything and everything i make and post here is fair game.
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[cheshire]

I had a character that had one a long time ago. The lack of readily available ammo really made me think twice before using it. It was something I would go to if we were fighting a hard contingency of Sith, but it was never a go-to weapon.

And I think the GM toned it down a bit for the game. I think the stunning effect was nullified, and it had a little less punch in it's sticky-spray.
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[DougRed4]

As a long-time GM of a supers game (my current regular game is over 23 years old, and I've been running the game for over 30 years) I can tell you emphatically that two of the most annoying, powerful, and game-breaking "powers" (or abilities) are transmutation and stunning attacks.

Most RPGs have some mechanic for wound levels or hit points, or allow most PCs to be able to 'take a few hits' before they go down. The above two powers bypass that mechanic. So whether it's Doctor Dastardly turning a PC into a pumpkin or a Gamma World character dropping an opponent with a stun whip, it's something that can really be frustrating (for players when it's used on them or the GM when his big bad is one-shot taken down!)

Our Star Trek game has the crew able to use nerve gas (or other powerful gases), with which they can flood anything from the entire ship to a particular individual deck. Of course doing so doesn't discriminate between friend and foe, if they're in the same area.

I tend to view this as you originally perceived it: pretty ridiculously powerful. If I even allowed such a thing in my game, it would be astronomically powerful and likely impossibly rare, as it's not a precedent you'd want to have lots of floating around in your game, most likely.
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[garhkal]

[DougRed4]

Actually, I've hardly played D&D. I played a few games (over one weekend) a few months ago, but that was the first time I'd played the game in decades. And there were none of those spells/effects, I don't think.

And just to be clear, it's not that I hate them, per se. I'm just extremely cautious with them, as I realize that one of the worst things you can do to a player is have them give up 4-5 hours of precious time, all to basically go sit on the couch, not able to do anything but watch, while their character has been turned into a toad (or lies there paralyzed, or whatever).
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[Random_Axe]

I feel the same way about Charms, Commands, and other Dominate or mind-control effects. In D&D terms, it all comes down to a "Save-or-die" situation. If you blow your one saving throw, you are taken out of commission and effectively out of the game because you have no more control over your character and what he or she can do next. If anyone has read any of the articles at Gnome Stew last year, there was something about "agency", or "Player Agency". Whether it is killing the PC outright, or taking him over via mind-control, you are in effect removing someone from Play. And there is NOTHING more frustrating than that kind of instant elimination.

[garhkal]

So i take it you never have the enemy use affect mind, control mind, dim others senses etc..
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