Jet Pack and Dodge Bonuses

[Dromdarr_Alark]

Hey everyone.

I have a player who uses a jet pack frequently and there is a recurring NPC who also uses one.

I have been making up arbitrary dodge bonuses whenever one of them activates a jet pack in combat, but I want to create a rule that will keep things consistent.

So, how does activating a jet pack in combat improve one's dodge, increase the difficulty to hit, or affect combat in any way?
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[Ral_Brelt]

Not being entirely fluent on the jetpack mechanic, I'd suggest using the maneuver dice as a bonus on dodge or attack for brawling for rocket punching. I'd apply the same as bonus dmg but I'd have the caveat that you can't use the pack for movement the turn after using it to dodge or attack. I also might require a check to allow for more than just dodging based on success or failure.

[garhkal]

Actually when using jet packs etc, your 'maneuvering' roll for that item REPLACES your dodge roll.. Just like if swimming, your swim skill replaces your dodge roll.

Jet Pack Operation
Time Taken: One round.
This skill represents a character's skill at using jet
packs. Since these back-mounted packs rely on pulling
in surrounding atmosphere and mixing it with regulated
amounts of fuel, they can only be operated within
atmospheres. Characters with/jet pack operation gain
no bonuses when operating "rocket packs," which use
the rocket pack operation skill.
Jet pack operation can be used
as a "reaction skill" to avoid enemy
fire.
• Repulsorlift operation (or other vehicle skill). If your
character is driving or piloting a vehicle, you can make
a "vehicle dodge" to get out of the way of enemy fire.

Basically if you are using your jet/rocket pack (or a vehicle) you use that skil, not your dodge.
Same if you are using a power suit.
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[Dromdarr_Alark]

That makes sense.

What about for players who have used their jetpacks during the turn to simply jump somewhere? I surmise that since they were moving so quickly through the air that they should be more difficult to shoot at.

I also think that this should be compounded with the different speeds which jetpacks move. There are some that move 50 meters vertically in a turn and there is one that moves 200 vertical meters. Since one is going four times the speed of the other, I think it should be more difficult to hit - before factoring in the user's jetpack operation skill.
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[Raven Redstar]

Well, how much of an advantage do you think they have?

Slight advantage: +1 to +5 bonus
Good advantage: +6 to +10
Decisive advantage: +11 to +15
Overpowering advantage: +16 or more

This table is on the GM screen revised and in the main book.
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[jmanski]

I agree, give a penalty to the shooter based on the jetpacks speed.
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[garhkal]

[CRMcNeill]

It's worthy of note that non-FS characters in the films and cartoons use jetpacks to great effect when fighting Jedi, specifically with regard to keeping out of lightsaber range. That alone makes a high skill in that area worthwhile. Personally, I liked how Warhammer 40K distinguished between the types; specifically, flight packs were treated like vehicles, while jump packs allowed the character to make a single Move out to the range of the pack.
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[Tupteq]

I'm using following house rules:

To-hit difficulty modifiers
Target moving 20m/round: +3
Target moving 40m/round: +6
Target moving 80m/round: +9
Target moving 160m/round: +12
...

MFTAS
Instead of providing bonus it negates +3 of moving target penalty for each 1D of bonus (e.g. stormtrooper armor negates up to +6 penalty).

[Dromdarr_Alark]

[ZzaphodD]

[Dromdarr_Alark]

[garhkal]

[ZzaphodD]

[jmanski]

I thought I saw, somewhere, a blurb about a fast moving character being +1d harder to hit. I can't find it anywhere, but I KNOW I saw it.

I think a speed modifier would be the thing to do here.
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