How many skills on a new template

[ebertran]

Is there a rule for the number of skills a template may have? Has this ever been written about?

[shootingwomprats]

Well, since there is a limited number of skill dice (7D) you can put into skills that sorta infers 7. If your GM allows you break D in pips, that gives you 21. Something people forget is that if you do not have skill, unlike other games, this does not mean your character cannot use them. In fact all skills default to the parent attribute at no penalty.

Example: You have a Slicer with Dexterity 3D and no skill in Blasters. He would roll 3D by default.

Also keep in mind, when it comes to templates, the choice of skills reflects the broadest spectrum or skills that this archetype would reasonably have access or training in.

Hope that helps.
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[garhkal]

Not in any book. I could have sworn we had multiple threads on this in the past, generally in the character or GM section, but doing a search for "Template+Skills", this was the only thread i could find asking a similar question to you.

Just taking a look at the established templates in the R&E rule book we get the following break down.
Alien student of the force, 4 in dex, 5 in know, 2 in mech, 6 in per, 4 in str and 2 in tech for a total of 23 skills.
The arrogant noble on the other hand has 4D/5K/2M/6P/3S and 5T for 25 skills.
The Bounty hunter gets 6D/5K/6M/7P/5S/5T = 34 skills.
The Brash pilot has 5D/6K/7M/6P/3S/4T =31 skills.
The Ewok warrior has 6D/3K/2M/5P/3S and 3T= 22 skills.
The failed jedi gets 4D/6K/5M/6P/4S/4T = skills.
The Gambler gets 5D/6K/4M/5P/3S/4T = skills.
The Kid has 6D/3K/3M/5P/3S/4T = 24 skills.
The Minor Jedi has 6D/5K/5M/5P/3S/4T = 28 skills.
The Mon cal (guess its a ship operator) has 7D/8K/6M/7P/5S/8T= 41 skills.
The Outlaw has 7D/6K/6M/5P/4S/4T = 32 skills.
The Pirate gets 6D/5K/6M/5P/2S/5T = 29 skills.
The Protocol droid has 4D/5K/5M/4P/1S/4T = 23 skills.
The Quixotic jedi gets 5D/2K/1M/4P/4S/2T = 18 skills.
The Revwien Tyia adept gets 5D/4K/4M/5P/2S/3T = 23 skills.
The Rookie new republic pilot has 5D/4K/6M/5P/3S/4T = 27 skills.
The Smuggler gets 5D/5K/5M/6P/3S/5T = 29 skills.
The Wookie first mate gets 6D/5K/4M/4P/4S/5T = 28 skills.
The Young jedi has 6D/5K/5M/7P/4S/5T = 32 skills.
And lastly the Young senatorial has 5D/6K/4M/5P/4S/2T = 26 skills.


So we are all over the place, with 18 skills on the Quixotic jedi, all the way up to 41 on the Mon cal (who has more M and T skills than even pilots and smugglers which you would think would have a lot of those, and has more dex skills than the Combatty templates get minus the outlaw)..
So its all over the place, with 25 or so as a good average.
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[DougRed4]

And even the splitting of dice into pips can't necessarily be done with all seven skills. This could be interpreted fairly restrictively, as in that only one (of the seven) initial skills could be split into pips. Of course it's really up to the interpretation of an individual GM and what they feel comfortable with.

I love how most characters can do most skills, as there are many games where PCs are handicapped and not able to do a huge list. The only ones in SW D6 that anyone can't try are the Advanced skills.
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[Naaman]

[aegisflashfire]

Nowhere in any book does It state that a character can only select skills on their template. They are ONLY suggestions for someone with that background.

Some species do have limitations on skill choices however
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[garhkal]

[Naaman]

One time, the GM drowned my character in the first session simply because I had not written "swimming" on the character sheet (regardless of the fact that I had/had not raised the skill).

[shootingwomprats]

[Naaman]

Oh, I know. I even cited the rules. But I think it was more for comedy's sake. After writing up my next character, the GM took my character sheet and added "Swimming 10D" to it and said: "there, now you can out swim a shark!"

[shootingwomprats]

Certainly not my style of game, but some would enjoy it I guess =)
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[garhkal]

The thread i was on about is in the Official rules section (though maybe it should have been here or in the game master section). "Skill use without the skill".
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[Kytross]

My first GM had a rule that skills written on your sheet were skills you had practiced while skills not written on your sheet are rolled at -1D until the end of the adventure. At the end of the adventure you could write on any skill you used at no cp cost.

He was upfront about it before the game started and told us it was a house rule to simulate someone trying to do something for the very first time. If you've never swum before you simply can't be expected to be at a professional level of swimming (4D) just because you have 4D strength.

An example I see all the time is in regards to guns. I teach people to shoot and people who have never shot before invariably think you can just pick up any gun and fire it. They don't know about safeties, they don't know how to make sure the gun is loaded, they don't know to rack a semi-automatic weapon, they don't know how to load a magazine, they don't know what sights are or how to use them. All of these aspects of firing a gun need to be learned, either by experimentation or from a teacher.

The rule of thumb we used for character creation is that you can write on two skills per attribute die in that attribute. For example:

You have 2D STR. You can choose four skills in STR, and you take Brawling, Climb/jump, Swimming and Stamina.

You have 4D in Mechanical, you can choose 8 skills.

If you have a pip or two in an attribute and really wanted one additional skill that was at the GM's discretion.

It was a house rule and it worked for us.

[jmanski]

Interesting. I think I like it....
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