Tweaked skill list for Falling Star

aegisflashfire

I've moved 3 piloting skills down to 2. Ships either fly like fighters (Millennium Falcon, Lady Luck or Skipray) or like Star Destroyers (Barges, bulk frieghters, frigates) -- They perform those roles in combat-- weaving in and out of the fleet, or maneuvering like large flying islands.

Personally I think that cap ships shouldn't be able to dodge fire but... I'm not quite ready to go all the way on pulling that trigger.

Secondly I've consolidated and redistributed the repair skills.
Armor repair now covers all armors from character scale through deathstar scale. It involves knowledge of ablation and impact absorbtion.

Blaster repair now covers all beam weapons at all scales including ion cannons and blaster pistols.

Starship repair covers the basics-- grav plating, pretty much anything that doesnt fit somewhere else

Sublight repair covers ion engines of any kind ( should probably rename it) which would cover the ion engines on cloud cars all the way through cap ships.

Hyperdrive repair is JUST repairing hyperdrives but covers starfighters, transports & cap ships

missile weapon repair covers all torpedo launchers, PLX launchers, bowcasters, concussion missile launchers, regardless of scale.

Repulsorlift repair covers the repulsors on anything from a droid up through a capital ship.

MECHANICAL
Archaic Starship Piloting
Astrogation
Beast Riding
Capital Ship Piloting
Communications
Ground Vehicle Operation
Gunnery
Hover Vehicle Operation
Jet Pack Operation
Powersuit Operation
Repulsorlift Operation
Rocket Pack Operation
Sensors
Shield Operation
Starfighter Piloting
Swoop Operation
Walker Operation

TECHNICAL
Armor Repair
Blaster Repair
Computer Programming/Repair
Demolition
Droid Programming
Droid Repair
First Aid
Ground Vehicle Repair
Hyperdrive Repair
Hover Vehicle Repair
[A] Medicine (First Aid 5D)
Missile Weapon Repair
Repulsorlift Repair
Security
Shield Repair
Ship Repair
Sublight Repair
Walker Repair

DougRed4 · Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:31 am Post subject:

Looks like you've put a lot of thought into this, aegisflashfire. I've considered myself making piloting simply two skills (capital and starfighter), which I think would streamline things immensely.
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garhkal · Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 4:25 pm Post subject:

Does that then not make it easier for PCs to ramp up skills to high levels since they have less and less skills demanding expenditures?
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aegisflashfire · Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:36 pm Post subject:

True in one way, but hot so true in another: How often do you ACTUALLY have players pick up some of those skills out there?
The repair skill restack makes more sense in universe and requires MORE skills if you want to keep your one ship in good repair.

While it means that you don't need to train separately for an X-Wing and a YT-1300, if you want to fly a YT-1300 and a barge you better know how to handle both.

The Gunnery consolidation does shorten the skill list, but realistically, no one was taking those skills anyway. (seriously, how often does a character take some of those skills like Blaster Artillery)

Oops. Just realized I didn't describe that part of the consolidation:

All targeting skills that use a laser/ion/beam + fire control system fall under Gunnery. That means Speeder, Capital Ship, etc all use gunnery skill.

garhkal · Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 1:58 am Post subject:

DougRed4 · Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:00 pm Post subject:

I've never seen a player character take any artillery skill.

And as far as players being experts in skills, it still requires both time and a teacher (or they have to use the skill in-game). To be honest, most of my PCs don't have a single pip in piloting, and a few that do just started raising theirs (as they now will occasionally pilot starfighters).

So even if I took it from three skills to two, it wouldn't have any effect in my game, really.
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garhkal · Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:33 pm Post subject:

Have you ever HAD any artillery? Or any situations where use of that artillery is needed? If not, maybe that is WHY no one has bothered taking it.
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DougRed4 · Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 6:08 pm Post subject:

I don't think we've had any. We're still early in the formation of the Rebellion, and the Rebels have barely set up on Dantooine. The PCs are hopping around amongst the Outer Rim (mostly), so it hasn't made any sense for them to have any exchanges with any.
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garhkal · Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 2:26 am Post subject:

Perhaps that's why they have not seen a need to use that skill then.
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DougRed4 · Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:42 pm Post subject:

Sure, that's part of it. But just because my players come across a skill they've not used much doesn't mean they're going to put points in it.

My characters tend to invest more in things that they feel will get regular use, generally.
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CRMcNeill · Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:08 pm Post subject:

With regards to your discussion of the technical skill rewrites, I would think this would be a good place for an advanced skill. Just as an example, (A)Repulsorlift Repair would have a prerequisite of 5D in any single vehicle repair skill (capital ship, space transport, starfighter, etc). The twist would be allowing a character to improve other skills to the point where they also qualify for the (A) skill. For instance, a character with 4D Capital Ship Repair and 5D Space Transport Repair with a 2D (A) Repulsorlift Repair could combine Repulsorlift Repair with Space Transport Repair because it meets the prerequisite, but not Capital Ship Repair, as his skill is too low. However, if the character raised his Capital Ship Repair dice to 5D, he would thus meet the standard of a prerequisite for the (A)Repulsorlift Repair skill. In real life terms, a person would need sufficient understanding of both Repulsorlift technology in general and how that knowledge applied specifically to use in Capital Ships to be able to combine the two fields of skill into a single task.

Also, I made Computer Repair a separate skill, but combined Computer / Droid Programming into a single skill, as both skills are more software oriented, as opposed to hardware
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garhkal · Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:58 pm Post subject:

Shouldn't tactics also come into play?
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CRMcNeill · Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 12:11 am Post subject:

aegisflashfire · Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 2:28 pm Post subject:

Thats not a bad thought, but laser weapons flight times are pretty short. (Of course we know they're not true lasers, since they're visible, and traveling at the tiniest fraction of the speed of light.) Still, they're not ballistic shells

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