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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:43 pm    Post subject: Help with cargo runs Reply with quote

In my new campaign, the players are sort of freelance spacers, they take jobs for anyone who can pay as well as legit cargo runs. Somewhere I recall finding something that gives general stats on what the "typical" cargo run would look like as far as how much money was earned.

So what are your thoughts on how a typical legitimate cargo run would work and how much the PC's should get paid? The game takes place about 3 weeks ABY in Bormea Sector. They have a Suwantek TL-1800 without cargo pods, which can carry 110 tons of cargo, and the crew is a sullustan pilot, a wroonian mechanic and a failed jedi who pretty much just sits around and "supervises" lol.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pick up Galaxy Guide 6: Tramp Freighters ASAP. It has all the details you need on hauling cargo from A to B. Another useful resource is Platt's Smuggler's Guide...
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crmcneill wrote:
Pick up Galaxy Guide 6: Tramp Freighters ASAP. It has all the details you need on hauling cargo from A to B. Another useful resource is Platt's Smuggler's Guide...


I completely concur.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Concur with our esteemed veterans.

But also to keep in mind is the guide gives you a base value system you can operate like the stock market. Buy cheap, sell dear. That's how it works.

Smugglers don't operate like that, and freight companies don't operate like that. A third party puts up all the bill, buys cheap, sells dear and you make a skim off the top.

That part, is how you design the adventure.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another thing to consider for smugglers over proper free traders.

Kick backs or other 'fees' to grease the inspectors.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's why I suggested Platt's Smuggler's Guide along with Tramp Freighters.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd taken a few looks at Platt's Smugler's Guide, but at an initial glance I didn't see anything too terribly interesting. What does this book contain that makes it such a valuable guide?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheshire wrote:
I'd taken a few looks at Platt's Smugler's Guide, but at an initial glance I didn't see anything too terribly interesting. What does this book contain that makes it such a valuable guide?


It's one of the few publications that has a specific emphasis on player use, something that I always felt was grossly inadequate with this line and many other games. Players make up the majority of the gamers out there, so it makes sense to have books geared for them.

One thing is the quality and flavor. Much of the high-quality text is written as if in-unverse by a smuggler for smugglers.

It's got the a Heroes & Rogues type of player character development section that is specifically geared towards smuggler characters. As a GM, one thing I've always enjoyed and encouraged players to do is develop their character's background and personality, and this book has great ideas for creating and roleplaying smuggler characters.

This book has a large number of smuggler templates, and a lot of great ideas for smuggler PCs and their NPC contacts.

This is one of my very favorite books in the entire WEG Star Wars line (and I have them all).
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that makes sense. When I was looking all that time ago, I was looking for something with a fair bit of GM how-tos. I felt like I could simply design smuggling runs just as well without the book as with. Particularly given that there is so much on smuggling or illicit cargo elsewhere in the WEG supplements. At the time, the book was running usually $20-$30 on eBay (as we all know, the markets on these things tend to shift all the time).

I think I'll give the book another look. If I can find it for a good price, I'll probably pick it up, given that a lot of my tastes as far as fluff vs. crunch have changed. Unfortunately, after drifting around the internet for a bit, it seems most used book dealers seem to think that $135-$200 is a reasonable price for the book. I can't help but guess that such an outrageous price is fueled more by collector speculation than on consumer demand.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those two books are 'king' scott2978, they contain everything you need to run a campaign of that sort, in fact if you check out Obsidian Portal you'll see that the Tramp Frieghter Campaign is VERY popular!

Check out any number of other games in the D6 Star Wars section (including mine in the link below) and especially Rebel Scum which has some awesome house rules in the wiki.
http://www.obsidianportal.com/campaign/rebelscum/wikis/main-page

HOWEVER... I must say that after reviewing all the expanded rules in those books I instead decided I didn't want something so crunchy; not to mention having to manage the input/output of resoiurecs so as not to outbalance the campaign.

My advice would be to use the info in those charts and tables to determine a kind of list of 'average' cost for the various runs; passenger travel, light specialty/dangerous cargo, heavy no frills runs and tweak them from there. Modify those costs depending on the distances, danger and relationship of with the client... And how rich you want them to be...

I essentially prepare a 'mission' with a base cost taking into account the above factors) and let the players negtotiate form there.

After all, I think most players (and GMs) are more interested in the actual 'mission', rather than playing accountant.

My only other advice would be to remember that a single ship with multiple pilots and gunnars can be very dangerous, even versus greater numbers- And read up on Space Combat!
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