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garhkal Sovereign Protector
Joined: 17 Jul 2005 Posts: 14215 Location: Reynoldsburg, Columbus, Ohio.
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 6:09 pm Post subject: Combining actions, and spending FP/CP??? |
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Ok. We know you cannot spend Force points and Character points in the same round. But, could say your second man, in a 2 person combined action spend CP on to the combined action while you are on a force point?
EG. Ghur is piloting the Trusty Scabbard, while Ixck is co-piloting it. Mazwee is co ordinating the 2 of them and makes her command roll to combine them. Ghur is currently on a force point, but is still getting hit. Can Ixck spend character points on that maneuvering roll, since he IS combining for it???? _________________ Confucious sayeth, don't wash cat while drunk! |
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Boomer Captain
Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 688 Location: Terra Sol
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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I would say yes... but that be just me. _________________ My backpack has jets!
I'm Boba the Fett!
And I bounty hunt for Jabba Hutt,
to finance my 'vette! |
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Vartax Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 13 Oct 2003 Posts: 203 Location: Salem, OR
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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He could but those dice would not be doubled since the person commanding is not using the force point. |
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garhkal Sovereign Protector
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 4:31 am Post subject: |
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Why would they be doubled if the 'commander' is on a FP? _________________ Confucious sayeth, don't wash cat while drunk! |
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Boomer Captain
Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 688 Location: Terra Sol
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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I think what he means is that the entire group does not have double dice, one person has double dice, that raises the average. Another person increases his dice with CP, raising the average further. The combined action bonus than adds to a higher average.
Only if the commander is using FPs or CPs does the bonus actually change, assuming you are using the rule where the command roll changes the bonus if over a certain difficulty number.
If you are not using that rule, than that doesn't matter.
But that is only what I think he is saying, I might be wrong. _________________ My backpack has jets!
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Vartax Lieutenant Commander
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 3:07 am Post subject: |
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Nope you have it right. |
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garhkal Sovereign Protector
Joined: 17 Jul 2005 Posts: 14215 Location: Reynoldsburg, Columbus, Ohio.
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 7:41 am Post subject: |
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Never hear of that rule... _________________ Confucious sayeth, don't wash cat while drunk! |
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Boomer Captain
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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It is mainly just a widely used House Rule. Incredible command roll results in a slightly better bonus. Basically the whole idea, simple and easily comes to mind to most people.
I don't use it, but I don't stop people from using it. _________________ My backpack has jets!
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garhkal Sovereign Protector
Joined: 17 Jul 2005 Posts: 14215 Location: Reynoldsburg, Columbus, Ohio.
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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RESURRECTION!!
Ok, been a long time since this was looked at.. For all you new folk, what's your thoughts? _________________ Confucious sayeth, don't wash cat while drunk! |
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Fallon Kell Commodore
Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 1846 Location: Tacoma, WA
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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The first thing that comes to mind is the fact that your pilot, being on a force point, would probably be better off without help unless he's a terrible pilot, massively outclassed by his co-pilot, or MAPed within an inch of his life. Even without that fact, I'd allow CP expenditure to raise the average. _________________ Or that excessively long "Noooooooooo" was the Whining Side of the Force leaving him. - Dustflier
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garhkal Sovereign Protector
Joined: 17 Jul 2005 Posts: 14215 Location: Reynoldsburg, Columbus, Ohio.
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:27 am Post subject: |
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The initial thought was in many of our gaming sessions within our group we have few if any space pilots in some groups.. so for some having to save their bacon this way would not be out of the question.. so i was just wondering whether it might be something there is a lot of concensus on, to possibly propose to our council.. _________________ Confucious sayeth, don't wash cat while drunk! |
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Bren Vice Admiral
Joined: 19 Aug 2010 Posts: 3868 Location: Maryland, USA
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:08 am Post subject: |
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We seldom use combined actions for PCs. About the only frequent use is for starfighters combining torpedo fire against capital ships.
Tangentially, I think every group of PCs we have ever had has had at least one pilot character. |
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garhkal Sovereign Protector
Joined: 17 Jul 2005 Posts: 14215 Location: Reynoldsburg, Columbus, Ohio.
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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I have seen lots of examples of combining actions..
Research (ie gain docs for an investigation) so they combine their search/investigation skill.
Combat both ground and space.
heck repair jobs. _________________ Confucious sayeth, don't wash cat while drunk! |
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Bren Vice Admiral
Joined: 19 Aug 2010 Posts: 3868 Location: Maryland, USA
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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garhkal wrote: | I have seen lots of examples of combining actions.. | I'm not arguing your experience, it's just different than mine. Typically even our small groups have one pilot and somebody who is good at repair. Usually we just let the person who is good at X do X and not get too fussed about trying to nab a couple of bonus points by arguing that other people are combining actions to help the person who is actually good at stuff.
Personally, I've never like the combined action tables since they seem to either give too large a bonus, too small a bonus, a bonus that is too awkward too calculate, or some combination of two or more of the above.
Personally I like a simpler system of powers of two. So two people/ships/guns = +1D, four = +2D, eight = +3D,..., 2^x = +xD. Other than that, I got nothing. |
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