Weapon strengths

[Esoomian]

[Bren]

Thanks for posting Esoomian. Sorry to wake you up down there.

Overall I like this idea. I think that 'finesse' weapons like rapiers should be a bit easier to break than broadswords and I think that powered weapons are likely easier to damage than unpowered weapons.

I'm not convinced about the relative strengths of bludgeoning vs cutting weapons. The distinction feels very hypothetical to me and is reminding me (and not in a good way) of the Runequest changes in weapon body points between RQII and RQIII. Also, thinking of two weapon like tools in my garage - the wood axe and the sledge hammer - those two seem like they have about the same haft/handle and would be equally breakable.

[Fallon Kell]

[Esoomian]

[Bren]

atgxtg has offered (threaten? ) to create a list of weapons with body strength based on his few of the issue. I think comparing POVs between what you have proposed and what he comes up with would be helpful. Overall my goal is to have something a bit more nuanced than the RAW without going overboard on detail or creating something far too crunchy compared to the rest of the system.

If I had to come up with detailed values I would probably default to the relative armor points of Runequest weapons for two reasons (1) I own a copy of and am still moderately familiar with the rules and (2) weapon breakage and relative armor points is an important and central feature in the RQ combat system as compared with many other combat systems where it is less important (like the SWRPG) or even absent - so I can infer that the designers spent some time thinking about getting this issue right.

[garhkal]

I could see the body being different based on type of weapon (powered, blunt vs slashing etc).. but i would also like a listing to poss include other metals used (or materials)...
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[Esoomian]

Yes it could easily spiral out of control and I'm not looking for a system that has every single weapon with a different body strength because of the nuances of construction.

I based my system on damage as that (to me) is an easy indicater of weight, particularly in bludgening weapons. I've only seen an Esoomian War Hammer listed online once and it had Strength + 3D as it's damage. For a simple bludgening weapon to have such a high damage rating I imagined it would have to be unbelievibly massive and therefore should be fairly resilient, not to mention it is designed to be weilded by Esoomians which can have up to 7D in strength.

That's when i started thinking that a 2D body strength is perhaps not appropriate for all weapons.

[atgxtg]

[Bren]

I wasn't familiar with that RPG. It took me a quick trip to Google to realize EABA wan't the English Amateur Billiards Association. After all, given English behavior at football/soccer matches as a guide, having a system for knowing whether a swing with a billiards stick is likely to shatter a half-empty pint bottle of ale or not might come in handy in between playing billiards.