Smoke Bomb / Smoke Grenade

[vong]

Ok, So I was looking at the stats for Smoke Grenades, and does anyone else think they look pathetic:

Smoke Grenade
Model: BlasTech Nacht-5 Smoke Grenade
Type: Smoke grenade
Scale: Character
Skill: Grenade
Cost: 25
Availability: 2, R
Range: 3-7/20/40
Smoke Radius: 0-3
Game Notes: Releases thick, obscuring smoke, which adds
+2 to blaster shooter’s difficulty.
Source: Han Solo and the Corporate Sector Sourcebook
(page 119), Rules of Engagement – The Rebel SpecForce
Handbook (page 69)

+2 difficulty to shoot for "Thick Obscuring Smoke". R2's extinguisher seem to do more then that! I think it should be a "blast radius" type thing.

0-3/6/10 for total cover/+3D/+2D

maybe even have it take a round per radius marker (round one is just 0-3, round do is out to 6m... etc)

Under the equipment guide there is a Smoke Generator. I would think that the grenade would provide similar cover, but for a limited time. maybe say the half life of the smoke is 5 minutes?

Smoke Generator
Model: GFBS SFX Smoke Generator
Type: Mood effects stage smoke generator
Cost: 40
Availability: 2
Game Notes: Adds +2D of cover to blaster firer’s difficulty.
Adds +1D to difficulty with physical weapons (due to
obscuration).
Source: Rules of Engagement – The Rebel SpecForce
Handbook (page 44)

thoughts?
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[Bren]

[vong]

i know, im designing this for a squad of RC clones. but +2 is just horrible, but total darkness is too much (maybe in a small radius around the grenade itself)
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[Esoomian]

There is already something out there that creates blaster refracting smoke but I can't remember what it is called.
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[Esoomian]

That was it!
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[garhkal]

Though house rules, i have always ran smoke grenades like this..

The round they detonate, they fill a 2m radius sphere blocking vision as if there was 75% cover (-3d iirc perception), this increases to
5m end of first full round
8m end of 2nd round
12m end of 3rd round
15m end of 4th round through 7th
12m end of 8th
8m end of 9th and back down to 5m for the 10th and last round.
That -3d for ranged combat/perceptions is more than sufficient as it then shows WHY lots of people fear stormies with their MFTAS..
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[ifurin]

that has to be a typo. other books have thick smoke as -1D to -2D to difficulties to firing.

[Bren]

[cheshire]

10 rounds is less than a minute. That's still not a terribly effective smoke grenade. I mean, the military has heat-generating smoke grenades that provide visual and heat cover, so IR cannot penetrate it, and it lingers for a good deal of time.
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[vong]

i think as long as the gas is still spewing from the cannister, the center will remain thick. so we can say it spews for 5 rounds, then starts to get thinner

question is how long does it take smoke to dissipate. if we dissipate it at -1 cover per round, would take 9 rounds to dissipate 3D
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