Multiple action dice

[Savaad]

When someone is taking multiple actions, they lose the extra dice off of all of their skills correct? For example, Savaad, Jedi Knight, has 7D in Lightsaber combat, 6D in Control, and 6D in his Sense skill. If he were to take 3 actions (-2D) (Keep up Lightsaber combat/Control and Sense, and swing once) his skills would be 5D in Saber combat, 4D Control and 4D Sense correct. Which would give him and total of 9D to swing his Saber.

Fill me in if this equation is wrong.

PS IMC I actually allow Lightsaber combat to count as only one action once it is going. Makes for faster and easier gameplay.
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[darthomer09]

I always played that they didn't have to re-roll every turn to keep a power up. I would either let it come down naturally after a time or until the player was damaged or loses concentration.
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[Gry Sarth]

Well, the whole point of a power that can be "kept up" is that you don't have to roll for it every round. Once you suceed in activating it it remains "on" until you're injured or a specified amount of time has passed. However if you're keeping a power "up" then you are performing that action, even if you don't have to roll for it, so if you have Lightsaber Combat up, that's already 2 actions you're performing every round.

So, if you take a swing with your saber, that's a 3rd action, which means a -2D penalty. Now here's where things get a little muddled, people interpret the rules in slightly different ways. Using the stats of your character, some would add his Lightsaber and Sense together and then take subtract -2D, resulting in 11D, and some (like me) will subtract the -2D from both Lightsaber and Sense and then add them together, resulting in 9D, as you mentioned. I do believe the latter to be correct.

And just for completeness sake, the saber's damage would be 5D (usually) + Control (6D-2D) for a total of 9D.
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[garhkal]

I am with gry, -1d from all three skills, for keeping LS combat up, THEN another dice, for each attack you do, assuming you do not have to parry.
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[cheshire]

I think in the example provided in the R&E it adds the lightsaber skill with the force skill and then subtracts the -2D.

[Savaad]

I will look in the R&E for that example. I was just trying to make sure i was going about it the proper way. And by the way, I dont make people re-roll their Lightsaber combat, just put that in there for the example to be thorough. I think that gry answered my question though. Originally i think I was adding the sense and saber skill then subtracting, but one of my players was doing it the other way around (subtracting from everything then adding up.)

Thanks for the help guys. I love this forum page.
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[Savaad]

I was looking at the example in the R&E and it only shows the multiple action dice being taken off of the Sense skill but not the Lightsaber skill.
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[Gry Sarth]

Indeed, looking through it, the R&E example shows the MAPs being applied only to the Force Skills... Oh well, to each his own...

Just to make sure I checked the Tales of the Jedi power description, an what a jumbled mess that is! Not only is the example very vague about the application of MAPs (though it does seem to agree with the R&E example), but it states that Control should be added to the attack roll and Sense to the damage (though looking at the numbers, it seems they add Control to both rolls). What a mess... just disregard it.

The thing is, WEG never really figured out how to handle MAPs and Force Powers, in every other power you can find some strange contradicting thing. The biggest example of this is Control Pain. The example focuses on a Wounded character and states that they will ignore their -1D injury penalty if they can activate the power. However since the power must be kept "up" for this to happen, you would get that -1D penalty right back due to MAPs. We only use this power if we're Wounded Twice or worse....

Enhance Attribute is also strange. At the lowest success you get a +1D bonus for 3 rounds, but since you're keeping the power up, shouldn't you automatically negate your bonus?
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[garhkal]

Yup. Enhanced attrib is a use now, get benefits for X rounds... No spend to keep up. Now here is a kicker. Do you decide which 'improvement' level to try for, and then roll? OR do you just roll, and what you get above is what you get.
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[Gry Sarth]

Yes, I had considered this. Ok, so you don't have to keep the power "up" and so you don't lose dice, but what about the first round? The round in which you rolled the power? That's definetly an action, so does your bonus start to be in effect only the next round?
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