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Effex Seven Ensign
Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 33 Location: Dantooine
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 1:13 am Post subject: Can you add 3d to one skill via specializations? |
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I've seen a few interpretations here that suggest you can create a character like this:
Assign 4d to Dex
Assign 2d to Blasters
Spend 1d for three specialization dice, assign all of them to blaster pistol
Result: Blaster pistol skill at 9d
As I read the rules (2E R&E, page 28,) that interpretation is incorrect:
Quote: | You can spend 1d of your character's beginning skill dice to get three specializations: add 1d to each specialization (emphasis mine.) |
In the example that follows, Thannik specializes in three seperate skills (blaster pistol, Wookies, and Ghtroc freighter, adding 1d to each.)
Thoughts? |
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Gry Sarth Jedi
Joined: 25 May 2004 Posts: 5304 Location: Sao Paulo - Brazil
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:05 am Post subject: |
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Well, that's pretty much it. You can only raise a specialization by 1D during character cration. Simple as that. _________________ "He's Gry Sarth, of course he has the stats for them." |
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PsiberDragon Commander
Joined: 31 Jul 2006 Posts: 260
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:51 am Post subject: |
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I kind of agree with both of you. My train of thought is thus: You can spend 1D to get 3 specializations, but, since the rules allow you to put up to 2D in any skill for a beginning character, you could put one of the other 7D into that specialization.
By way of example:
I'm playing Thannik, so I've spent 1D to get Blaster Pistol, Wookies, and Ghtroc Freighter as my three specializations. So I now have Blaster @ 2D, Blaster Pistol at 3D, and 4D more to spend on other skills. (2D for blaster, 1D for the specializations). I can use ONE of those remaining 4D to improve my Blaster Pistol to 4D, leaving me 3D for other things.
As for stacking all three specializations in one skill... I definitely agree that's not allowed.
Just my 2 centicreds on the issue. _________________ "Love like you will die tomorrow. Hate like you will live forever." - Unknown |
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Grimace Captain
Joined: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 729 Location: Montana; Big Sky Country
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:56 am Post subject: |
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There's a couple schools of thought on that. Some interpret it to be that you can put 1D per pip into a specialization, but since there's nothing that says it can't be the same specialization, it means (to them) that you could put all 3D into a single specialization.
The other school of thought is that each pip creates 1D in specialization and you choose 3 seperate specializations that you put 1D into.
The choice is yours, but realize that if you fall into the first school, you're going to have some UBER-characters at startup which can greatly unbalance your game. |
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PC-032 Lieutenant
Joined: 31 Jul 2006 Posts: 91 Location: Brisbane
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 10:32 am Post subject: |
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but rember that
"if you over specialize, you bread in Weakness, its a Slow Death"
so your say Bounty Hunter with Dex 4D, Blasters 6D, Blasters: Blaster Pistol 9D. is going to have to be very carfull with their other 4D of Stats and 4D of Skills or they won't be able to find the Aqusisions, if they can they'll see the Bounty Hunter coming a mile off and Scarper, if they get lucky and do actualy catch them they may get Didled out of the Bounty in Fees and Charges or see the Aqusision Walk on a Bad Bust and get nothing for all their hard work. _________________ "Remember There Are No Stupid Questions-Just Stupid People." Mr. Morgan Blackhand. |
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Pel Line Captain
Joined: 10 May 2006 Posts: 983 Location: Texas
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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True. There's nothing explicitly saying one can't create a one-trick pony, but they usually don't live very long.
9D blaster will not save you from the rampaging hordes of natives you just offended on a botched cultures roll. _________________ Aha! |
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PC-032 Lieutenant
Joined: 31 Jul 2006 Posts: 91 Location: Brisbane
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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saw this years ago
Munch the Bounty Hunter
Dex 4D
Blasters 6D, Blasters: Blaster Pistol 9D, Dodge 6D
Str 4D
Know 2D
Per 3D
Mech 3D
Astrogasion 4D, Space Transoprts 4D, Space Gunnery 4D
the player Mooned about wasted stat & skill dice bacause a last minunt adition decided to play a smuggler with Mech 4D and 6D in Astrogasion and Space Transports and the GM took away his Prisoner Transport bacause the GM only wanted one Non-Starfighter ship in the Party, _________________ "Remember There Are No Stupid Questions-Just Stupid People." Mr. Morgan Blackhand. |
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garhkal Sovereign Protector
Joined: 17 Jul 2005 Posts: 14174 Location: Reynoldsburg, Columbus, Ohio.
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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Pel wrote: | True. There's nothing explicitly saying one can't create a one-trick pony, but they usually don't live very long.
9D blaster will not save you from the rampaging hordes of natives you just offended on a botched cultures roll. |
Or worse yet, when they are somewhere they cannot use that blaster skill. EG say they go to imperial planet Cal. The laws there prohibit ranged weapons, or the like... _________________ Confucious sayeth, don't wash cat while drunk! |
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Effex Seven Ensign
Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 33 Location: Dantooine
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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Pel wrote: | 9D blaster will not save you from the rampaging hordes of natives you just offended on a botched cultures roll. |
With 9d in blaster there's no need to fear a rampaging horde
(depends on how big of a horde, I guess) |
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Pel Line Captain
Joined: 10 May 2006 Posts: 983 Location: Texas
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 9:34 am Post subject: |
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Got to reload sometime... _________________ Aha! |
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Phalanks Balas Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 05 Jul 2005 Posts: 176 Location: Paris - France
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:53 am Post subject: |
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I never allowed a character to spend 3D specialisation in only 1 skill. I understand "plit a dice to 3 x 1D" to be different than "give 3D in an only one specialisation".
9D in blaster is too much for new character. Remember blaster are not allowed everywhere. 6D in blaster is enough.
When I look the skill of your character, I say, Munch can use blaster and fight with a space transport but that's all. Remember, in Star Wars there is not only fight. If you play a scenario where you have to do a lot of things in a city where guns are not allowed, you will find it very boring because you are completly unskilled. You should better raise social skills.
If you plan to have a ship, you'd better raise : intimidation, hide/sneak, search, street wise, con, value, bargain, starship shield, repair transport, planetary system, bureaucraty, survival, etc...
Hope it helps you _________________ Phalanks
A day you will be facing the guns of the Black Pearl. You will know what means damned pirates ! |
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PC-032 Lieutenant
Joined: 31 Jul 2006 Posts: 91 Location: Brisbane
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:19 am Post subject: |
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Sad thing is "Munch" (not Characters Real Name) survived the first few adventures and picked up some usefull skills from the Perception and Mecchnaical Catogories, "Munch" got the party in to much Trouble. the other players where using him as a Semi-Smart Weapon and Meat Sheild, unfortnaly "Munch" went and got himself killed in the middle of one Adventure facing down a Squad of Stormtroopers, and the rest of the party whern't able to fight their own battles let alone Munches. _________________ "Remember There Are No Stupid Questions-Just Stupid People." Mr. Morgan Blackhand. |
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Pel Line Captain
Joined: 10 May 2006 Posts: 983 Location: Texas
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:31 am Post subject: |
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Whoops. I guess even Stormtroopers hit their targets sometimes.
Sounds like a good lesson in creating balanced characters and parties to me. _________________ Aha! |
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PC-032 Lieutenant
Joined: 31 Jul 2006 Posts: 91 Location: Brisbane
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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Eight to One odds, 6 Blaster Rifles, A Grenade Lancher and A Light Repeating Blaster, from Dug-in Positions Vs. one guy in Heavy body armor with a Heavy Blaster Pistol in the Open at 50m. _________________ "Remember There Are No Stupid Questions-Just Stupid People." Mr. Morgan Blackhand. |
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Pel Line Captain
Joined: 10 May 2006 Posts: 983 Location: Texas
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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Ookay. That's a great lesson in the Folly of the Frontal Assault. Kind of a minor footnote in the Charge of the Light Brigade.
So...Was it a spectacular death? _________________ Aha! |
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