Affect mind...

[garhkal]

Lets say, the evil big dark jedi gets acosted by our heroes, but in the fight, he manages to hit one with affect mind, making that character thing the OTHERS are the dark jedi (or his minions).
A) would he shoot them?
b) Should he get a dsp for any 'evil action' caused while under it??
c) would he get any additional rolls to resist, other than the perception check the force skill calls for???
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[Chandra Mindarass]

Same here. If the dark jedi would pull off the trick, the hero would turn around and see himself surrounded by enemies. A force-user MUST stick to the rules laid out for DSPs, but since he thinks they are enemies he might act in self-defense - that depends on the way the characters react. I would treat the situation as if the hero was really surrounded by enemies.

What additional rolls do you mean? If the other heros would try to "break the spell" he might get an additional PER or Control roll to notice the strange behaviour of his enemies. The others (if they realize what's the problem) could try to remember their buddy of the mission or their personal relationship.
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[garhkal]

[Chandra Mindarass]

Well, that should really be roleplayed well. Given there is a moment of ceasefire.

"Hey Jook, wtf?! Will you stop shooting us and kill Darth Donkey here?" can hardly lead to success.

"Jook, don't you recognize me? I'm your friend Garon, we are here to rescue your sister from the claws of this sith lord. I'm not your enemy." would prompt another Perception/Control roll.

"Jook, don't you recognize me? I'm your friend Garon. We grew up together on Zorgooine! We are here to rescue your sister from the claws of a sith lord named Darth Canibus - and you are under his thrall. Search your feelings, you know I'm right! I'm not your enemy." Per/CON with less difficulty.
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[Phalanks Balas]

with good role playing sequence, you can also allow a conbine action like when characters try to stop a wookie trance.
The player character under the mind effect can fall in temporary madness like huge paranoïa crisis (to be discussed with concerned player) and be out of control for the dark jedi and his friends. This situation will prevent GM to manage a scene where player characters try to kill each other if players act wisely. Madness can continue until dark jedi stops using his power. At this moment, madness character can use will power skill to recover his mind (difficulty lowered by time gone) and to realise what occured (at GM discretion).
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[garhkal]

So lets set the situation..

Suprise round, dark jedi hits pc #2 of 6, with this power. Makes him think pc 1, 3, 4, 5 are sith apprentises out to kill him.
COMBAT round 1, he maintains the power. The 'imagry sith apprentises attack. PC under sway 1 defends and returns fiore. Where in here would they start to get the ability to try and 'sway him back'>??
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[Phalanks Balas]

and player 5 use his 20 thermal detonators... (I'm kidding)
What is your purpose in this scene ? if you add dark jedi which try to manipulate PC in your game, please check before if your player can subtely manage the situation.
Been mind affected doesn't mean been crowd controlled. Affected PC is confused but dark jedi don't have a remote control on s/he.
In other words, affected PC thinks s/he is surrounded by enemies. Except if s/he thinks s/he can kill all enemies in one round, using her/his blaster is not a good solution.
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[garhkal]

[Phalanks Balas]

[Pel]

I believe when the "Sith Apprentices" began using non-lethal techniques to subdue the affected PC, the illusion might be a bit strained. Also, if the other players realize what is occuring, they might concentrate their efforts on the Sith. A blaster bolt to the head goes a long way toward breaking a Force users concentration. 8)
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[Jedi Skyler]

Holy Schnikes!!! THAT'S gonna leave a mark!

[garhkal]

Bringin this back up, but with a different approach. If a dark sider, some how gets one of the pcs on his or her own, and uses affect mind successfully, telling that character that they 'feel palpaltine is their true master and he should not be running from his destiny of serving him" what would you have the character do?
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[Gry Sarth]

Well, first of all, that would be a pretty difficult roll, since the darksider is trying to directly affect the character's conclusions in an extreme way. Plus, I would say the darksider has to keep on rolling the power in order to keep up the charade, or else the character would snap out of it. If all these demands were met, I guess the poor target could do little else but consider Palpatine his master and try his best to fulfill his master's wishes.
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