Particle Sheilds?

[worfbacca]

So let me get this right..some pooper xwing pilot lobs a proton torpedo on a Star Destroyer with sheilds up. He's targetting the shield generator. He hits..because it's a physical weapon energy sheilds have no effect so instead of 7D + 6D + 3D (It depends if the shield operator has it all on one arc anyways) its just 7D + 6D the reason why..?? 5D HULL + 2D built in Particle shield +6 D modifier for 13D to resist correct? But if there was an energy weapon attack. The energy sheild would give a 16D 7D (5D + 2D) + 6D + 3D right?

[Rathe Ehtar]

What?
No, Particle shields protect from all weapons except, and this is very important, except ion weapons.
Star Destroyer would have 16D(7Dhull +6Dscale+3Dshields) to defend against a proton torpedo, laser blast, concussion missile, etc, if the weapons are starfighter scale. If shot by an ion cannon, the Star Destroyer would have 13D(7Dhull+6Dscale) assuming the ion cannon is starfigher scale.
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[worfbacca]

According to PG 126 and the essential guide to weapons and tech these are two sources that claim energy sheilds do not stop physical weapons and that particle shields are integrated with in the HULL.

[Rathe Ehtar]

Let me check.
Particle shields... I was actually thinking of combat shields.
Particle shields pounce space junk, and physical stuff off the hull. If those are lowered, say to launch a torpedo, the hull code drops by 2d.
Now energy shields are what I meant above, sorry about the confusion.
Now, it doesn't specifically say that ion weapons go through the particle shields, but a number of examples I've read say that they don't. So if your ship is hit with an ion cannon, you get your full hull code to roll against it.
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[worfbacca]

What about if someone hits u with a torpedo. You don't get the combat sheild bonus do ya to resist??????
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[Rathe Ehtar]

Of coarse you do. Combat shields are for combat. Proton torpedos are effected like every non-ion weapon.
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[worfbacca]

It says though that energy sheilds do not stop a physical weapon and that it will impact against the particle shields and hull and according to pg 126 The HULL code is made up of HULL and Particle sheilds. So in effect..HULL code would only be used to block a torpedo..it would go right throught the energy sheilds..thats what 126 says! Of course..I think thats dumb. But I want to get it right pertaining to technology in the STAR Wars Universe
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[Loc Taal]

I think the rules could be interpretted either way. It says that you have to lower your particle shields to fire a torpedo. It doesn't say you have to lower your energy shields, so one could argue that the torpedo must be able to pass through, or else you'd have to lower them to fire. It follows then that if the torpedo can pass through the energy shields when you fire, they wouldn't protect you from incoming torpedos, either. The rules don't specifically state wether or not torpedos pass through energy shields, so I think it's up to interpretation. I've always played that energy shields protect you against both energy and physical attacks, but after reading the rules again, I can see how it could be interpretted either way.
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[Rathe Ehtar]

Are you reading Star Wars Revised & Expanded?
I am, and it doesn't say that on pg 126.
It states,

[worfbacca]

Alright..I can see..what you guys are talking about. In the essential guide to Weapons and Technology it says that a proton torpedo passes through the energy sheilds and impacts against HULL and Particle shields. Thats where I'm getting my interpretation of the rule. If someone had'nt read the essential guide then they would obviously take your interpretation. I'm just wondering if anyone else has this book or other tech manuals that explain this. Thanks
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[Rathe Ehtar]

My good friend Sark has all those books. I haven't read through them, yet. Anything else while I'm here?
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[worfbacca]

If it is true that combat shields protect from physcial..(the pirates example in the book says so..against asteroids..) that would be great. We do know that the planatary sheilds and Death STAR II sheild would vaporize or damage any vessels it would collide with..this is in the same book as well.
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[Rathe Ehtar]

Are you clear now about shields, movement in combat, etc. Or do you need some more help?
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[worfbacca]

I think I got it..thanks
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[Esoomian]

Can particle shields be upgraded thereby increasing a ships hull rating without the timeconsuming and difficult adding of extra armour plating over the hull in a even manner to avoid problems of uneven mass and reduced ship responsiveness