TK and grenades.

[garhkal]

If i have a bad guy force user, use TK on a pc, who is carrying grenades (or even thermal detonators), to 'activate' them, would they just go off at the instant they are 'tked' or at the end of the round?
What would he a good 'roll' to try to get rid of them?

Also, on TK.
If i use TK to say, hold a person in place, are they able to make any 'reaction' rolls against incomming attacks? Are they allowed to make a str check to break free each round, or just in the first round the DJ used TK?
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[Gry Sarth]

Grenades and TD have 2 different settings for explosion: Timer or contact. I think activating a grenade through TK is not that difficult, however changing the detonation setting through TK would be a very hard task indeed. So the grenade would be on whichever setting the user left it on, which most certainly means it won't explode immediately, in the least it would explode at the end of the round. If it was set for contact, then it would not explode unless the character made a very rough movement or was hit by something. In order to get rid of the grenade, I'd call for a simple Dexterity roll, with a Difficult-VD difficulty. The better he rolls, the less damage he takes.

When you try to control someone with TK, the target can resist by adding their Control or Perception to your base difficulty, it has nothing to do with Strength. I think that should be rolled every round as the person is constantly trying to break free from the TK's grasp. Unless it breaks free, it can't perform dodges, parries maybe, with an increased difficulty.

[Endwyn]

For the thermal detinators, the flavor text about them all over the place indicates that the person take care in not making harsh or sudden changes to the thermal detinator lest it go off without being activated. Most people treat them like eggs for their own safety, but I'm sure you could be more harsh and be in the "yellow zone" for safety.

If the DJ is trying to set off a TD the PC's have, he should hold the detinator in place w/ TK and make a sharp forceful strike against it from one angle while he is still holding it in place. The instant, sharp, blunt force to the detinator which can't recoil to absorb the force should be enough to trigger the explosion. There's a delicate balance in there on the verge of explosion already, an unstable one. Enough force should set it off. Of course, if you haven't informed the players, or been treating thermal detinators with the care and caution they deserve; you should definatly inform them or introduce the concept to the game first, before doing it to them. (Perhaps a news story about a man who attempted to bomb a building, but failed when the sudden stop to the turbo-lift caused the thermal detinator to explode. He was still in the basement levels and had not reached the more sensitve, higher security locations law enforcement believes he was attempting to target. Well Jan, that's what happens when you're not careful with such a dangerous weapon.)
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[garhkal]

[Jedi Skyler]

Let's not forget the point made about a sharp contact. Remember that in the Jedi Academy trilogy, Gantoris uses the Force to make an actual strike on an antenna. The result was kind of like the antenna had been flicked, and the avians on it took flight as the antenna rang as from a physical contact and vibrated. So theoretically, a dark Jedi should be able to do the same thing to someone's thermal detonator and cause the thing to go off; the only two variables he'd need to really worry about are: 1) Did I flick it hard enough, and 2) Am I far enough away that I'm not going to be turned into a fine, red mist? Beyond that, it should be possible. However, if you have a Jedi in your party, they should be allowed to make a Perception or Sense roll to see if they can detect what's being done. Then they might make an Absorb/Dissipate energy to bleed off the telekinetic energy from its intended purpose, thus saving the individual and anyone in the blast radius.

[garhkal]

[Volar the Healer]

[Jedi Skyler]

Absorb/Dissipate Energy works on energy. The Force is an energy field. If an object is moving, it has telekinetic energy. Absorb/Dissipate could conceiveably bleed off the telekinetic energy surrounding the object, perhaps even to the point of removing enough energy so as to keep the object stationary.

And if use of the Force truly creates ripples that can be detected by other Jedi, and TK is basically a line-of-site power, then it stands to reason that the DJ trying to TK the pin would have to be close enough that the Jedi would detect the ripples. If they act fast enough or roll good enough, they could conceiveably detect what's going on and move to stop it.

I admit I may be reaching at straws, but I happen to be one of those who believes that the only limits a Jedi has (besides Light and dark) are those placed on him or her by their own lack of imagination.

[Volar the Healer]

Not only do I agree with Skyler, I'm going to say if the grenadier is a Jedi, he could use his Control to oppose the dark jedi's telekenesis.
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[garhkal]

Might have to ask about that over on the holonet, as to whether ab/dis can be used to offset tk...
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[Jedi Skyler]

Granted. I don't mean to purport myself as the Hitchhiker's Guide to Star Wars Role Playing or anything... but since the question was raised, and I found it to be quite the interesting topic, I've been having MUCH fun picking it apart! 8)

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[Jedi Skyler]

Ooh, I can dig that! The size of the pizza and the amount/kind of toppings is directly proportional to the Jedi's chances of pulling this stunt off! (Is that an official Holonet ruling?)

[Volar the Healer]

It's often MY ruling.
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