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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ministry of Education could go so far, but what else.

The activities of the rest of the Alliance also serve to enhance the effectiveness of the Ministry of Education. The declaration of the Alliance to Restore the Republic codified the viewpoint of the Alliance, and when widely distributed, it undermined the Imperial propaganda line that the Alliance was nothing but a bunch of bitter anarchists. The Battle of Yavin gave the Alliance a major boost in the sense that more Outer Rim worlds became willing to at least tacitly support the Alliance through covert shipments of supplies and such.
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing i always wondered. With brainwashing and other social manipulations, why we never heard of "Kamikaze" like bombers/pilots amongst the Imperial ranks..
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

garhkal wrote:
One thing i always wondered. With brainwashing and other social manipulations, why we never heard of "Kamikaze" like bombers/pilots amongst the Imperial ranks..

TIE pilots are all but kamikaze, but I take your meaning.
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

garhkal wrote:
One thing i always wondered. With brainwashing and other social manipulations, why we never heard of "Kamikaze" like bombers/pilots amongst the Imperial ranks..


I had never thought of that ....

Hmmmm, maybe it could come back to even with brainwashing etc etc etc, you can twist someone, but only to a point. You can never outright force them to do something they would never do. You can degrade morality, increase subservience & brutality, but only incrementally. Plus, these changes are 'external' - not the right word, but I can't think of a better word. It is items you do or allow to others not yourself ... Its one thing to allow or even encourage brutality to others, it is another to allow brutality to yourself is what I'm aiming at as external

As "Kamikaze" comes from a culture that completely subverts the individual to the Emperor, and not just in their actions, but in the willingness to commit suicide just because the Emperor wills it. That may be a step too far for a culture that less than a generation ago was a republic. Given ... 3 ... 4 ... ???? generations of manipulation maybe the Sith would be to that level
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look to RL for how quickly some earth based cultures can 'subvert' others into being willing suicide bombers. And that is WITHOUT SW tech level brainwashing techniques, drugs, the force, subliminal messages etc..
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