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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZzaphodD wrote:

Well, as an example of the resistance of Phrik, the container was brought up.


Sure but being resistant isn't the only reason it could have survived

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The lightsaber resistance could be something to do with the specific properties of lightsabers. Perhaps phrink repels them slightly.

Wookie only metions that its resistant. Cortosis have the noted special ability of 'shorting out' lightsabers. Nothing similar mentioned about Phrik.


No but it mentions phrik is highly resistant to lightsabers and says it makes a durable amour. Blast doors are durable too but a lightsaber will cut through them even if they're much thicker than an electrostaff. The other thing is highly durable is a fairly subjective term. Something that can regularly stand up to a heavy blaster pistol might be called very durable but it doesn't mean it has any lightsaber resistance at all. Wookieepeadia specifically notes the phrik is lightseber resistant rather than just energy resistant. The only substances it actually explains lightsaber resistance for is cortosis and ultrachrome. Of those I'd say ultrachrome is a better bet for having a high energy resistance.

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Well, its built for 'normal' armour at +1D/+1D with its current Dex stat. This is 'extremely light and durable' armour which is not really availible at the nearest droid shop. Sure, it might imply a few modification (upgraded motivators and hydralics) but thats no problem.


That makes more sense but when you're getting into the +3D threshold I think you're going to start loosing the humanoid form/size and the droid is not going to be able to pass as human. Also the magnaguard are known for flexibility and agility. I can't see something with big strong servos having the same flexibility

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Well, armourweave probably contains Phrik or similar materials to a degree if its lightsaber resistant. Why not put it directly into the armour instead of a cloak. Why is one to good and the other ok?


Personally I suspect armourweave has a mesh of ultrachrome not phrik so the energy from energy attacks are distributed over the entire surface helping to disapate it. Even then I'd only give it a +2 to energy and +0 physical.

I can see combining phrik amour +2D+1 energy +1D physical with a armourweave +2 energy +0 phsyical for a total bonus of +3D energy +1D phsyical because armourweave is light and flexable thus no dex penalty and it can be avoided/easily cut which means it's protection is not always going to be 100%.

To put it another way the stacking of those two types of amour has enough of a downside that I can see past the +3D energy no dex penalty.

But that's just my point of view, if you want it to have +3D energy no dex penalty then it is your game.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dont get hung up on the +3D for energy. That does not represent bulk, but its extreme resistance to energy (incl. lightsabers). The physical protection is more on par with the normal armour (even though its noted for being extremely light & durable in general). At +1D I dont think its that bulky compared to the 'normal' +1D armour, quite the opposit actually. The reason I stay at 'only' +1D physical is purely for balance and to reward players who try to think of other ways to damage the droid instead of just blasting away. Otherwise Id put it at +1D+2 or something like that for a Phrik armour the same weight as its original armour.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gamer wrote:

Exactly what modules say this?
I have them all from WEG to Saga and I cannot find it being said in any book, module or not, rpg or not.
The things i can find that comes close is the requirement of restraining bolts.
The other is annual memory wipes required by some places.

I asked at a star wars rpg chat and everyone there said it is just a house rule being claimed as a fact.


Not sure if it was a home wrote module, or something picked up off the web.. BUT the way it was run, was very module like...
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, just wanted to know for future reference.
Would be fun to do on a player once. Laughing
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