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Falcon79 Commander
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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Coolness....... Thank you, thank you, thank you chesh!!!! 8) 8) 8) A few more and we should be good. You are my hero Cheshire! _________________ Not the droid you're looking for....... |
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Forceally Commodore
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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cheshire wrote: | I've tried to balance the Force users by examining the "Use the Force" skill. Hers is actually higher than the knights. I've also tried to compared the knights to other Force users that have d20 stat blocks and D6 stat blocks.
However, I also agree that they may both be a little high. I don't mind backing them down.
Would you mind helping me understand why they should have armor repair? Do they make their own armor in the Imperial Knights as well as their lightsabers?
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Forget what I said about the armor. First off, they have armor-related feats. Right? To me, part of wearing the armor is making certain it's in prime condition: no weaknesses in the protection it provides; no obstruction caught in the joint which might hinder your arm or leg movement. That's why I thought they would have armor repair. A Jensaarai should have armor repair since they craft their own armor. But not Imperial Knights.
Second, I went back, and I saw that the stormtroopers and the Royal guards didn't have armor repair. Blaster repair, yes, because they need to maintain their blasters. But not armor repair. |
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cheshire Arbiter-General (Moderator)
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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cheshire wrote: | This one is hard, even harder than most Saga conversions.
Imperial Knight
Dex 3D+1
Lightsaber 5D+1
Know 2D+1
Planetary systems 3D+2
Alien Species 4D
Mech 2D+2
Space transports 4D
Starship Gunnery 3D+1
Per 3D
Search 3D+2
Str 3D
Tech 3D+2
Control 8D+1
Sense 7D+2
Alter 7D |
Looking back at this, I would back the Force skills down to 6D+1, 5D+2, and 5D. Just an FYI. _________________ __________________________________
Before we take any of this too seriously, just remember that in the middle episode a little rubber puppet moves a spaceship with his mind. |
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cheshire Arbiter-General (Moderator)
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Cade Skywalker
Dex 3D
Brawling parry 3D+2 Blaster 4D+2: blaster carbines 6D+1, lightsaber 5D+1, grenade 4D, dodge 5D+1
Know 2D
Alien Species, 2D+2, Languages 3D, survival 3D+2, streetwise 5D, planetary systems 4D+1
Mech3D
Space transports 5D, repulsorlift operations 4D+1
Per 3D+2
Search 4D+1, investigation 5D, bargain 4D
Str 3D+2
Bralwing 4D+1
Tech 3D+2
Blaster repair 4D+2,
Control 4D+1
Sense 4D+2
Alter 3D+2
Force points 2
Dark Side points 4
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This one defied quite a lot of conversion logic, so I looked at the d20 stats, and at a lot of bounty hunter stats in WEG materials. Really, the stat block for Cade looks like all attribute and no skill (at least a lot less skill than attribute), so it took a lot of tweaking for him to be at all balanced.
I'm also not sure at what point in his development this is supposed to represent him. So, if something doesn't look right, please tweak it. _________________ __________________________________
Before we take any of this too seriously, just remember that in the middle episode a little rubber puppet moves a spaceship with his mind. |
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cheshire Arbiter-General (Moderator)
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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Deliah Blue
Dex 3D+1
Brawling parry 5D+1, Blaster 4D+1: blaster pistols 5D+2, missle weapons: dart shooter 5D+1, dodge 5D
Know 3D
Mech 3D+2
Starship gunnery 4D+1, vehicle blasters 4D+2, space transports 4D+1, Repulsorlift operations 4D
Per 3D
Con 4D, search 3D+2
Str 2D
Brawling 4D
Tech 3D+2
Space transport repair 5D+1, computer programming/repair, 4D+1,
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cheshire Arbiter-General (Moderator)
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Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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Jariah Syn
Dex 3D+2
Dodge 4D+2, blaster 5D: blaster carbine 6D, thrown weapons: thud bug 4D+2, vehicles blasters 5D
Know 2D+1
Mech 3D+1
Starship gunnery 4D+2,
Per 2D+1
Sneak 4D, hide 4D+1, search 3D, gambling 3D+2,
Str 3D+2
Brawling 4D, stamina 4D+1,
Stamina 4D+2
Tech 3D
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Falcon79 Commander
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 406 Location: The Planet of Pensacola Florida
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Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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AWESOME! Now All I need is:
Asohka Tannoh
Stats for the various clone trooper types in ith WotC Clone wars Campain guide and its a wrap. Thanks Chesh! 8)
Three cheers for Cheshire!!!! _________________ Not the droid you're looking for....... |
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cheshire Arbiter-General (Moderator)
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Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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You'd also asked for these. BTW, I noticed that there was a problem with my attribute conversion spreadsheet, so if you notice any attributes that are out of whack, let me know. I think I corrected most of the problems with good sense when they didn't seem right. But just keep an eye out.
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Astraal Vao
Dex 2D+1
Know 2D+2
Willpower 3D+2, languages 4D, alien species, 3D+2, planetary systems 4D+1,
Mech 2D+1
Per 3D+1
Persuasion 5D, investigation 4D+2, con 4D+1, command 4D
Str 3D
Search 4D+1
Tech 2D+1
First aid 4D+1,
Control 1D
Sense 1D+2
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Gunn Yage
Dex 3D+2
Blaster 4D+2, Dodge 4D+1,
Know 2D+1
Tactics 6D+2, planetary systems 5D
Mech 3D+1
Starfighter piloting 7D+1, starship gunnery 6D+2, astrogation 6D+1, starship shields 6D
Per 3D
Command 6D+1
Str 3D+1
Tech 2D+2
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Rulf Yage
Dex 3D+2
Brawling parry 4D+2, blaster 5D+2: blaster pistols 7D
Know 3D
Tactics 8D: fleets 9D : capital ships 8D+2, bureaucracy 6D,
Mech 3D+1
Starfighter piloting 7D, astrogation 6D+2, capital ship piloting 6D, capital starship shields 5D+2, starship shields 6D+2, capital ship gunnery 6D+2
Per 3D+1
Command 8D+1
Str 3D+1
Brawling 4D+2
Tech 3D
Space transport repair 5D, capital starship repair 4D+2, starfighter repair 4D+2,
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Konrad Rus
Dex 2D
Brawling parry 3D+1, blaster 3D+2, dodge 3D
Know 4D
Willpower 3D+2, languages 6D+1, alien species, 6D+2, planetary systems 6D+1, bureaucracy 7D+1
Mech 3D
Per 4D
Persuasion 7D, investigation 6D+1, con 8D+1, command 7D+2, search 7D
Str 2D
Brawling 3D+1
Tech 3D
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cheshire Arbiter-General (Moderator)
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Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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Ahsoka Clone age twenty-something (Aahsoka)
Dex 4D
Lightsaber 6D+1, dodge 5D+2, brawling parry 4D+2, melee combat 4D+2, melee parry 5D,
Know 2D+1
Willpower 4D, streetwise 3D,
Mech 3D
Starfighter piloting 4D, space transports 4D+1, starship gunnery 3D+2, starship shields 3D+1,
Per 3D
Hide 5D, search 4D+1, sneak 5D+2, bargain 3D+1, command 3D+2,
Str 2D+1
Acrobatics 4D+1, climbing/jumping 5D, stamina 4D+1, brawling 5D,
Tech 2D
Lightaber repair 3D+2, first aid 4D+1
Control 5D+2
Sense 6D+2
Alter 5D
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This is really comes down to a guess. I've taken her converted stats, and when she's level 3, there really isn't much there. Then I took some inspiration from Luke Skywalker from ANH and ESB, and thrown in a little bit of Ben Kenobi from ANH. It's really a big guess as to what she might have been like of cloned and allowed to grow up a bit. _________________ __________________________________
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Falcon79 Commander
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 406 Location: The Planet of Pensacola Florida
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Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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no prob think you did a good job. Thanks! _________________ Not the droid you're looking for....... |
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Falcon79 Commander
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 406 Location: The Planet of Pensacola Florida
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you again cheshire your conversions are Awesome and useful... Plans for my story drivin campain are proceeeding smoothly.... and It look's as though I've located a number of players to run it for. At any rate I have one more, small, request for NPCs from you, If you have time and are of the inclination....
I would like some conversions of the Specialized clone troopers in the Clone Wars Campian Guide... Have stats for Standard clone troopers that will be in cold storage whith the jedi clones, but there will be an unusually high number of the more specialized ones stored there too.
Also have a name for the campain: Through The Looking Glass: Reflections From The Past.....
cheshire wrote: | This one is hard, even harder than most Saga conversions. |
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Imperial Knight
Dex 3D+1
Lightsaber 5D+1
Know 2D+1
Planetary systems 3D+2
Alien Species 4D
Mech 2D+2
Space transports 4D
Starship Gunnery 3D+1
Per 3D
Search 3D+2
Str 3D
Tech 3D+2
Control 6D+1
Sense 5D+2
Alter 5D |
cheshire wrote: | Looking back at this, I would back the Force skills down to 6D+1, 5D+2, and 5D. Just an FYI. |
OK. Applied your suggestions... _________________ Not the droid you're looking for....... |
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cheshire Arbiter-General (Moderator)
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:59 am Post subject: |
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what kind of specialized clones? _________________ __________________________________
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Gry Sarth Jedi
Joined: 25 May 2004 Posts: 5304 Location: Sao Paulo - Brazil
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:11 am Post subject: |
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If you have plenty of patience, I have started to go through the NPCs in the Clone Wars Campaign Guide, so we're bound to have some clone stats... in a while... _________________ "He's Gry Sarth, of course he has the stats for them." |
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Falcon79 Commander
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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cheshire wrote: | what kind of specialized clones? |
These, Particularly The: ARC Trooper, Clone Blaze Trooper, Clone Commando, Clone Jet Trooper, Clone Naval Officer, Clone Pilot (Both types),Clone Scout Trooper, Clone Shadow Trooper, Clone Subtrooper and Galatic Marine...... WoW... there's a lot more then I thought there were.... they are on pages 147 to 154.
Gry Sarth wrote: | If you have plenty of patience, I have started to go through the NPCs in the Clone Wars Campaign Guide, so we're bound to have some clone stats... in a while... |
It's not that I don't have patience, just need them RELATIVELY soon, but not exactly right away.... I am interested in your NPC project though. _________________ Not the droid you're looking for....... |
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Gry Sarth Jedi
Joined: 25 May 2004 Posts: 5304 Location: Sao Paulo - Brazil
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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ARC Trooper
Type: Advanced Recon Commando clone trooper
DEXTERITY 3D+2
Blaster 6D+2, blaster: blaster rifle 7D+2, blaster artillery 5D, brawling parry 6D, dodge 4D+2, grenade 6D, melee combat 4D+1, missile weapons 7D
KNOWLEDGE 2D+1
Intimidation 3D+2, survival 4D+1, tactics 3D+2
MECHANICAL 2D
Beast riding 3D, communications 3D+1, repulsorlift operation 4D, sensors 3D+1
PERCEPTION 3D
Command 3D+2, hide 4D, search 5D, sneak 5D+2
STRENGTH 3D+2
Brawling 6D, climbing/jumping 5D, stamina 4D+2
TECHNICAL 2D+2
Armor repair 4D, blaster repair 4D, computer programming/repair 3D, demolitions 4D, security 3D+1
Character Points: Varies, typically 3-15
Move: 10
Equipment: 2 DC-17 heavy blaster pistol (5D+1), DC-15A blaster rifle (5D+1), 2 grenades (5D), 2 EMP grenades (6D), missile launcher (6D, 4 missiles), ARC Trooper Armor (+2D physical, +1D energy, -1D Dexterity and related skills), tongue-activated helmet comlink, climate controlled body glove, Multi-Frequency Targeting Acquisition System (adds +1D to Perception checks in low-visibility situations, +1D to ranged weapon skill used against targets moving more than 10 meters per round; polarized lenses prevent flash-blinding), utility belt (high-tension wire, grappling hooks, 6 spare blaster power packs, ion flares, concentrated rations, spare comlink, water packs, 2 medpacs).
Source: The Clone Wars Campaign Guide (pages 147-148) _________________ "He's Gry Sarth, of course he has the stats for them." |
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