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| Zarn wrote: | Personally, I liked the leaflet load for the TIE Bomber.
Of course, you could cover the leaflets in contact poison, and/or radioactive tracker dye, if you wanted to... |
I saw a variant of this in Vampire: the Masquerade, namely the book New York By Night. Long story short, two opposing factions of vampires are trying to claim New York. One side decides to (non-fatally) irradiate a supply of blood that the other side will use as sustenance. As a result, the first faction uses a fleet of helicopters each equipped with cameras, heat sensors and Giger counters. Once those helicopters encounter and photograph people who give off a radiation signature but don't show up on the heat sensors, that's how the first faction knows they found and positively identified vampires of the enemy faction....
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| Argentsaber wrote: |
I always presumed they ARE used later. Why no strikers? Those are ground based fighters for use in atmosphere, and so would only be seen on an Imperial ground base. These armored ones? You wouldn't want those in an attack wing where there are x-wings and a-wings about to hammer them.. you might see them patroling Ord Mantel though.. |
But unless we make more novels/films on the org trilogy and such to SHOW it we have no real ties to prove they exist..
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CRMcNeill
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So, the official name for this thing is the TIE/rb. Anyone have any ideas what "rb" means? Nothing officially released by DisneyLucas gives any hints, just saying its a heavy fighter of some kind.
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Mamatried
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| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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| CRMcNeill wrote: | | So, the official name for this thing is the TIE/rb. Anyone have any ideas what "rb" means? Nothing officially released by DisneyLucas gives any hints, just saying its a heavy fighter of some kind. |
I hve heard it being refferd to as the TIE Brute |
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CRMcNeill
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| Mamatried wrote: | | CRMcNeill wrote: | | So, the official name for this thing is the TIE/rb. Anyone have any ideas what "rb" means? Nothing officially released by DisneyLucas gives any hints, just saying its a heavy fighter of some kind. |
I hve heard it being refferd to as the TIE Brute |
That might work as an unofficial nickname, but the /letter code is usually a mission type designator, like how a TIE/rc is a reconnaissance platform. So what sort of mission would /rb refer to?
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Mamatried
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| CRMcNeill wrote: | | Mamatried wrote: | | CRMcNeill wrote: | | So, the official name for this thing is the TIE/rb. Anyone have any ideas what "rb" means? Nothing officially released by DisneyLucas gives any hints, just saying its a heavy fighter of some kind. |
I hve heard it being refferd to as the TIE Brute |
That might work as an unofficial nickname, but the /letter code is usually a mission type designator, like how a TIE/rc is a reconnaissance platform. So what sort of mission would /rb refer to? |
Seems it is officially called Heavy TIE Fighter.
Link here
https://heroichollywood.com/new-solo-star-wars-tie-fighter-name/ |
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CRMcNeill
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Okay...
But.
What.
Does.
/rb.
Stand.
For?
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| Quote: | Okay...
But.
What.
Does.
/rb.
Stand.
For? |
Really Big?
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Mamatried
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| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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https://www.starwars.com/databank/tie-brute
The ship is called TIE brute by this site
Also called Brute/Heavy
It does not state spesific what the /rb stands for but looking at the craft I could guess Rigid Body, or something |
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CRMcNeill
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"Rigid Body" mostly just sounds like picking words that fit. Reinforced Body, maybe, but that doesn't really take into account the other things this ship is capable of doing. As I said, the /letter designation for TIEs is for what mission it's going to perform, not design characteristics.
I'm aware of it being nicknamed the "Brute", and of it being a Heavy Fighter, but I am unaware of any actual word combinations fitting the /rb code that would also fit with being a heavy fighter.
At least when TLJ gave us the AT-MegaCalibre6, it turned out to be the designation for the turbolaser that took up most of the fuselage...
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| Raven Redstar wrote: | | Really Big? |
But it isn't, really.
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| CRMcNeill wrote: | | Reinforced Body, maybe, but that doesn't really take into account the other things this ship is capable of doing. As I said, the /letter designation for TIEs is for what mission it's going to perform, not design characteristics. |
I agree but you seem to be applying old EU reference book logic which may not totally apply here anymore. We are talking about Disney publishing canon which seems to be more careless about details like this. They may have noticed the pattern of TIE/xy on the pevious TIEs and just came up with the first thing that popped into their mind.
Since the hull is described as "Triple-laminate quadranium-reinforced titanium armor" and the "heavy" in part refers to its hull, my money is on "rb" indeed standing for "Reinforced Body." I would not at all put it past them to make a designation that doesn't speak to the mission and doesn't even take into account the other things the ship is capable of doing.
The "mission" after all is really to make new models for toys an such. They are running out of ways to make new stormtrooper variations unique so we got one with fur on it's shoulders.
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Mamatried
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| Whill wrote: | | CRMcNeill wrote: | | Reinforced Body, maybe, but that doesn't really take into account the other things this ship is capable of doing. As I said, the /letter designation for TIEs is for what mission it's going to perform, not design characteristics. |
I agree but you seem to be applying old EU reference book logic which may not totally apply here anymore. We are talking about Disney publishing canon which seems to be more careless about details like this. They may have noticed the pattern of TIE/xy on the pevious TIEs and just came up with the first thing that popped into their mind.
Since the hull is described as "Triple-laminate quadranium-reinforced titanium armor" and the "heavy" in part refers to its hull, my money is on "rb" indeed standing for "Reinforced Body." I would not at all put it past them to make a designation that doesn't speak to the mission and doesn't even take into account the other things the ship is capable of doing.
The "mission" after all is really to make new models for toys an such. They are running out of ways to make new stormtrooper variations unique so we got one with fur on it's shoulders. |
I fully agree, we have a history with TIEs with /xx for their main role and mission description.
I have looked everywhere and the dest I can come up with, having gone so far as to use a military acronym list to look for anything flight related with RB.
I have to say nothing that made sense othern than rigid body
This TIE from the starwars site is fairly large 10m by 8 m so it dwarfs the othe ties, this makes a rigid body or something the like most fiting.
Now if could find something make sense that RB couls stand for then I would be a happy camper indeed. |
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Looking into this... was the designation for the TIE Bomber always TIE/sa?
I mean, the naming system, per wookiepedia, gives us two different TIEs using in, but one is In and the other is IN, one of which means "interceptor" and the other means "space superiority fighter".
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Mamatried
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 10:44 am Post subject: |
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| MrNexx wrote: | Looking into this... was the designation for the TIE Bomber always TIE/sa?
I mean, the naming system, per wookiepedia, gives us two different TIEs using in, but one is In and the other is IN, one of which means "interceptor" and the other means "space superiority fighter". |
there is a few discrepencies, especially with the new first order TIES
TIE/sf is to me the space superiority designator, ( not how it is actually used)
But it seems to ne the regular line TIE for the first order
Maybe we all shouls try to be creative and make a new headcanon designation list of the TIE /XXs |
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