Help! Combat Too Slo-o-ow

[ZzaphodD]

[Bren]

Yes that would make sense.

A bit less costly but still providing some balance would at a minimum apply the MAP cost for having Combat Sense up as a deduct from any skill that is not directed against one of the opponents that was targeted with the Combat Sense power. Example: Jedi targets 3 opponents with Combat Sense (difficulty to activate = Moderate +6). While the power is up, any skill directed against a 4th or new opponent is at -1D MAP. Any non-combat skill is -1D MAP.

[garhkal]

[vanir]

Me too.

Automatic initiative alone is ridiculously powerful when you've got a reportoiré of Force Powers to select from and it's assured the one you pick will be in effect before anyone else gets to act.

That alone made it the "must have" Force Power for every Force User among our Players, for years. I remember the day we learned about that power, when it first appeared in print (Fragments from the Rim was it?), every Force User in the gaming group started wringing their hands with glee.

We remembered how powerful it was in AD&D, just how much you can do with that alone.

[ZzaphodD]

I dont know how you handle Initiative, and to be true I dont even remember the RAW initiative rules.

We roll Per to see who gets to act first and then take turns resoving those action one at a time. Why not just add the combat bonus (ie +2D) to the Initiative (in our rules or something similar if the RAW is different). This would allow the Jedi to go first most of the time, but does not guarantee it. I have a hard time seeing, given that a round is a bit fleeting as a time reference when you look at what the rules are trying to represent, how you could argue that always going first is a good mechanic.
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[vanir]

Ep 1
"Have you ever seen a Jedi in combat?"
"No."
"We will not survive this."

You need a Jedi to fight a Jedi. If one has combat sense up, you need another with combat sense, then roll their respective Sense each round for initiative.
Everyone else goes after those with combat sense up.

[Fallon Kell]

[vanir]

...or superlaser the planet, etc.

Mind you if the purpose is to kill the Jedi, and destroyers can only chase them off, technically that's a win.

[Fallon Kell]

[Bren]

[MacRauri]

[garhkal]

Had a pc of mine done that (Danger sense up all the time), he would have eventally mentally fatigued himself as well as gave himself a case of paranoia..
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[ZzaphodD]

[vanir]

Agree Gharkal and ZD, that's exactly how we roll. We got so used to playing epic levels in AD&D we learned how to write up Artifacts that were as much a liability as they were a boon, so they were never game breakers.

Same deal, anything amazing can also be terrifying. Roses have thorns.

Mental and physical fatigue, yes (the Force is intrinsic to lifeforce, ergo has biological component). Attracting the Dark Side by heavy reliance on the Force for mundane tasks, that's a big one in our games. Sensing no danger as your companions are blown to pieces, another.

My favourite one is convincing Players that they are becoming more skilled in use of the Force as I teach them a more Sith perspective.
I don't tell them the Force Points I hand out are actually Dark Side Points until they start to question the morality of the opportunities for advancement I'm placing before them, or they've fallen to the Dark.
That's when I tell them their 6 FP and 2 DSP are in fact 2 FP and 6 DSP and I make them change them around on their sheet, then discuss whether we'll retire the Character as an NPC or try to atone.

See Darksiders don't think they're gaining DSP, they think they're justified. They think they're gaining FP (either don't care or don't know about the DSP, either is perfectly likely from my experience).

RAW says give them both and tempt them, if they use the FP they keep the DSP. I think that's too immature. I hide it from them and let them take responsibility for actions without direct warnings. I'll put warnings in the game, like Vima De Boda might come up and warn a Character who's been gaining a lot of FP lately about his path.
If he/she doesn't listen, they will later when it's too late. Makes things much more interesting and why not, these are fictional people, nobody's going to hell or anything.

We're an adult gaming group, so we cut the censorship about dark themes and harsh realities, and bring it in full force.

[MacRauri]