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| Fallon Kell wrote: | | Yeah, I don't use any chinese, but the rest of the firefly jargon seems a reasonable result of a bunch of correllians riding sleeper ships out to the edge of the galaxy and then sitting around talking to eachother for a thousand years. |
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| Fallon Kell wrote: | | Yeah, I don't use any chinese, but the rest of the firefly jargon seems a reasonable result of a bunch of correllians riding sleeper ships out to the edge of the galaxy and then sitting around talking to eachother for a thousand years. |
Of course, if you turn Chinese into Huttese...
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| Fallon Kell wrote: | | Yeah, I don't use any chinese, but the rest of the firefly jargon seems a reasonable result of a bunch of correllians riding sleeper ships out to the edge of the galaxy and then sitting around talking to eachother for a thousand years. |
Check out The Black Sands of Socorro sourcebook and you'll find exactly what you described. The planet was colonized by Corellian Colony ships that crash landed there and then were lost for a very long time. The language and customs of Old Corellia are still around into the Rebellion Era.
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| Rerun941 wrote: | | Fallon Kell wrote: | | Yeah, I don't use any chinese, but the rest of the firefly jargon seems a reasonable result of a bunch of correllians riding sleeper ships out to the edge of the galaxy and then sitting around talking to eachother for a thousand years. |
Check out The Black Sands of Socorro sourcebook and you'll find exactly what you described. The planet was colonized by Corellian Colony ships that crash landed there and then were lost for a very long time. The language and customs of Old Corellia are still around into the Rebellion Era. |
Sweet. Now I really feel like I did something very right!
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Of course, if you turn Chinese into Huttese... |
Y'know, that's a really good suggestion. I might have done so already, but most of my NPCs and my player's character all have reasons to hate the Hutts. (I am just waiting for my player to figure that out, too.) I doubt I could justify them speaking that much Huttese. Plust I know like ten words in Huttese, and I'm not sure I want to translate that much. Maybe when they're working in the outer rim, they'll hear more of it.
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| Fallon Kell wrote: | | Y'know, that's a really good suggestion. I might have done so already, but most of my NPCs and my player's character all have reasons to hate the Hutts. (I am just waiting for my player to figure that out, too.) I doubt I could justify them speaking that much Huttese. Plust I know like ten words in Huttese, and I'm not sure I want to translate that much. Maybe when they're working in the outer rim, they'll hear more of it. |
You could also limit it to phrases in Huttese, like swear words and slang terms and the like. It always seemed to me that, among other uses, Firefly used Chinese to say things that they couldn't say on television. Apart from that, they seemed to stick to English for the most part. Same could be said for Huttese in the SWU (bantha poodoo?)
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Most people seem to learn cuss words easier for other languages than their own..
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| garhkal wrote: | | Most people seem to learn cuss words easier for other languages than their own.. |
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Especially German, but that's because anything said in German with enough fire can sound like a swear.
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JAWOHL!!! 
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May I remind you, Grimace, that this is a family forum!
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| cheshire wrote: | | Especially German, but that's because anything said in German with enough fire can sound like a swear. |
I haven't noticed that in Germany. But I have noticed it in Asia for our local contacts or guides speaking in Chinese. The intonation they used to demand (I can't use the verb ask as it really sounded like an impolite demand) a different table, a taxi, or an explanation for why the hire car is late sounds not at all like a question, but more like a order given by an irate superior to a dim and infuriating inferior. If a question or even a demand was addressed to me in that tone of voice, I would be preparing for imminent combat rather than finding you a better table.
Any one else notice that?
It does seem like an interesting quirk for an alien culture and a way to differentiate characters with true fluency in language/culture/alien species from those that do not have such fluency or specialization. |
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gehen Sie bumsen einen Hund
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| Bren wrote: | | If a question or even a demand was addressed to me in that tone of voice, I would be preparing for imminent combat rather than finding you a better table. |
In some parts of China, doesn't the latter require the former? 
I haven't travelled much, but one of my pastors went to Israel once and he mentioned that a friendly coffee shop debate there can consist of two men sitting at a table, leaning in nose-to-nose and shouting at each other. So yeah, different languages and cultures can interpret non-verbal cues in different ways too.
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| cheshire wrote: | | May I remind you, Grimace, that this is a family forum! |
Huh? What did he write?
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