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| ZzaphodD wrote: | | Gry Sarth wrote: | | ZzaphodD wrote: | | (well, basically a sniper modified E-web). |
You, my friend, are what's known in the business as an evil GM.  |
Funny, my players keep saying the same, yet they return for more punishment...must say something about them i guess.. |
We keep coming back because we don't want him to know how evil he really is. We are the good guys you know... (we also appreciate our real lives so much more after each spanking session)
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Kira Firestorm
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I for one would say either the Royal Gaurd or those scary Sovereign Protectors.
Once our whole group of 6 pc's and 3 NPC's faced just one of these gus, in a warhouse, to say that only 2 pc's made it out alive, by blowing a hole through the walland basically running to the ship and flying as fast it could go and then spent 2 months in hiding, just hoping he didnt follow them.
Scared the Force out the party.
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ZzaphodD
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| Gry Sarth wrote: | No contest here. Storm Commandos take the cake and slit the baker's throat without anyone noticing.
It's been a long standing tradition in the games of my group, if you need to up the ante and instill the fear of GM into your players, you drop a couple of Men in Black into the fray. In the beginning we simply used them as powerful Stormies, but in time we learned to use them properly as stealthy, cunning commandos. I think the best battles we've had in our long years of gaming have been against those versatile shadow troopers. Setting up explosives, monofilament wire traps, wielding garrotes from darkened corners, or powerful carbines from across a corridor. Hiding in the shadows and sneaking around you. Gotta love them.
Their inclusion alone makes Fragments from the Rim one of mu favourite books. |
Hehe, while looking for stats for elite stormtroopers in general while designing my Assault Troopers (again) I came across the Storm Commandos. I just realised that the Saboteur specialization SC:s have an effective 10D in Sneak!!! WTF? 
A SC Saboteur will sneak a Thermal into the characters drawers.. 
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garhkal
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Location: Reynoldsburg, Columbus, Ohio.
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Not without pick pockets to do the palming of that TD...
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CRMcNeill
Director of Engineering
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Location: Redding System, California Sector, on the I-5 Hyperspace Route.
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| A friend of mine once suggested a very interesting campaign where all the characters would be members of the Royal Guard, almost like an evil-Empire version of the Secret Service. The guard detail would be broken into three parts; the Red Robes, a rapid-reaction team with heavier weapons in Storm Commando Armor, and a plainclothes unit, wearing slim-fitting body armor under normal clothing, with a retracting helmet (ala Stargate). That third idea scared me the most. Imagine Imperial Guard who were indistinguishable from civilians until the moment they opened fire. |
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Hellcat
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Why not have them wear an experimental holographic image disguiser that takes more than 2 minutes before it's gotta be recharged? Then they could wear their regular armor and nobody would know it until the hologram dropped. Plus they could then program in any face so it'd be impossible for anyone to identify them at all when out of their armor.
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CRMcNeill
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| Hellcat wrote: | | Why not have them wear an experimental holographic image disguiser that takes more than 2 minutes before it's gotta be recharged? Then they could wear their regular armor and nobody would know it until the hologram dropped. Plus they could then program in any face so it'd be impossible for anyone to identify them at all when out of their armor. |
That's a hell of an idea, and it probably would've come up if the game had progressed beyond the planning stages. On a technical side, the idea for the plainclothes unit was to mingle with the crowd at public functions, and I'm not sure how well a holo-disguise would function in a crowd, with people in close proximity to it. Genuine clothes would be much longer lasting and less suspicious, and if the body armor was something along the lines of scout armor or storm commando armor, it would be relatively inconspicuous.
If you were referring just to the helmet, I think the general consensus was that a fully retractable helmet was a much cooler visual effect. They wouldn't have been heavily armed; a heavy blaster pistol and a force baton (mini-collapsible-force pike), but weaponry like that in the hands of an Imperial Guard at close range would be nasty, especially on surprised PCs |
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garhkal
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| Quote: | | If you were referring just to the helmet, I think the general consensus was that a fully retractable helmet was a much cooler visual effect. They wouldn't have been heavily armed; a heavy blaster pistol and a force baton (mini-collapsible-force pike), but weaponry like that in the hands of an Imperial Guard at close range would be nasty, especially on surprised PCs |
I had one campaign set after thrawn, where the head imp had several labs working on a polyliquid like morphable armor similar to the gou'ald's Jaffa (SG1).. and the PCs were the ones who had to try and stop them being developed (or steal the designs).
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Hellcat
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Ok, you talking helmets along a similar line to what the Jaffa used on SG1 for your plain clothes division, which is exactly what brought up the holographic image disguiser idea for me. Think of the season one episode Cor-ai. When the Jaffa had the helmet's retracted it made it possible to identify them. Teal'c was so identified when SG1 traveled to that planet because of that very ability of the Jaffa helmets, and it nearly cost him his life.
The thing I was looking at with the image disguiser is that it could be used to allow them to blend in while keeping their identity a complete secret. If folks see the faces of the Royal Guard in public and then see a retractable helmet slide into place to identify them as such, there's a very good chance their identity will get out. Especially if any images get out to the public at large. Then folks may be able to identify them in public and either avoid them or target them.
But if they use a holographic image disguiser there's a greater shock value there because you have no idea if the image they saw is the actual face of the Royal Guardsman or not. And imagine the shock of seeing the entire body melt away to show Royal Guard armor underneath. Using a hologram that's not their own face would allow the Royal Guard to go out in public without their armor on and no one would be the wiser.
Also, with the proximity you descripe folks would be likely to discover the armor and the weapon even in plain clothes. So they'd still be suspicious.
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CRMcNeill
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| Hellcat wrote: | Ok, you talking helmets along a similar line to what the Jaffa used on SG1 for your plain clothes division, which is exactly what brought up the holographic image disguiser idea for me. Think of the season one episode Cor-ai. When the Jaffa had the helmet's retracted it made it possible to identify them. Teal'c was so identified when SG1 traveled to that planet because of that very ability of the Jaffa helmets, and it nearly cost him his life.
The thing I was looking at with the image disguiser is that it could be used to allow them to blend in while keeping their identity a complete secret. If folks see the faces of the Royal Guard in public and then see a retractable helmet slide into place to identify them as such, there's a very good chance their identity will get out. Especially if any images get out to the public at large. Then folks may be able to identify them in public and either avoid them or target them.
But if they use a holographic image disguiser there's a greater shock value there because you have no idea if the image they saw is the actual face of the Royal Guardsman or not. And imagine the shock of seeing the entire body melt away to show Royal Guard armor underneath. Using a hologram that's not their own face would allow the Royal Guard to go out in public without their armor on and no one would be the wiser.
Also, with the proximity you descripe folks would be likely to discover the armor and the weapon even in plain clothes. So they'd still be suspicious. |
All valid points. As I said, we never got past the planning stages. Perhaps one way for an image disguiser to work would be to have focused on just the face, with the rest of the body disguised by the kind of voluminous robes that the Emperor's advisors and courtiers seem to enjoy. Who knows what sorts of gear you could cart around under those tents. With that sort of thing on, someone would have to be getting pretty personal to realize that you were wearing armor underneath it.
Also, an image disguiser focused around the wearer's head only could be used in other ways, like a holographic head's up display that could project sensor information a few millimeters in front of the guard's eyes. I wouldn't be surprised if the red guard sensor suite included facial recognition software to pick known threats out of crowds. |
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garhkal
Sovereign Protector
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Heck i could even see 'internal' comlinks that are biolinked to their vocal cords and ears.. so thy can receive/call out without anyone being the wiser.
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Dustflier
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Absolutely the Storm Commandos. Gotta love that reflec.
Special Navy forces, with training from the Ubiquitorate, could be horrifically effective too, though. If only we could see them in action at some point.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/SpecNav_Force_trooper
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garhkal
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In actual game play my pc hates rad troopers.. Outstanding in melee (force pike specialists) and their armor is great against both energy and phys damage.
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Dustflier
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Incinerator troopers seem pretty hardcore, too. They are cloned and raised to be firebugs and encouraged to take out their psychopathic pyromaniac urges on targeted villages and innocent bystanders with plasma rifles and thermal detonators.
I wouldn't want to go up against them.
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