How to Identify Force Senstives

[Mamatried]

[KageRyu]

@Mamatried, I was never implying detection by a force user "across the Galaxy". I specifically said "In close Proximity" and while every one may define close proximity differently, I think once this reaches near orbit you have stretched credulity of close proximity. Please do not misrepresent my statements so directly.
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[Mamatried]

[garhkal]

Well, what if just being force sensitive is not enough to 'trigger' the jedi looking at someone's kid, but there's something else to it?
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[CRMcNeill]

[garhkal]

Would that relationship chart be as is, or reversed?
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[CRMcNeill]

[garhkal]

I also wonder, is the 'predictivity of being tested' related to where one is in the galaxy? Inner rim/core, most likely, mid rim, less. Outer rim, maybe in a month of sundays.
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[pakman]

Ok, finally getting back to this ....

My game is has a lot of house rules around the force - BUT the key concepts here should translate well to most games...

Couple key points -
Force Attribute - in our game we use a force attribute for force users - it has three skills - Control, Sense and Alter. Works just like other attributes and skills.
Difficulty Levels: Besides the words (Easy, Difficult, etc.) Difficulty levels are numbered, and this concept of used for shifting difficulties in many rules. Eg. DL1: Very Easy, DL2: Easy etc. So a rule or situation may say "Task is DL3:Moderate, modified by..." which would shift the level up or down one. This can be achieved with just modifiers - but it allows for some consistency across some of our house rules...

Sensing Force Powers and Force users
Have two Force Techniques (these equate to Powers in raw) for detecting force users and force use.

Force Awareness, and Sense Force.

Force Awareness is the default power a character gets when they learn their first 1D in the Sense Skill.
This represents a lot of passive "feeling" or other basic sensing we see in movies books etc.

Sense Force - is a specific ability that a Force user has to actively lean when advancing their character and spending character points.

Force Awareness is more passive - and it can be used to sense when other force users are using their abilities.

In a nutshell, when one force user rolls for using a force power - another force user can roll to see if they detect it.

The basic to detect is;
Base Difficulty is : Moderate + Relationship and Proximity modifiers.
(see the relationship and proximity modifiers in the Force Section).

Then SUBTRACT what the force user who did the force thing - from that difficulty.

Example: Fred the Jedi uses his telekinesis to save a child from falling into a ravine - his telekinesis roll is 23, and he save the child!

Bob the Inquisitor is nearby and has been hunting Fred - and the GM rolls to see if the inquisitor sense this use of telekinesis.

The base difficulty to detect bob is Moderate, the gm assigns a 12 for this.

Bob has been tracking Fred for a long time, were both padawans together before order 66, so the GM assigns a Relationship modifier of +7 to the difficulty. We are up to a difficultly of 19 (13 +6).

Proximity wise (see table page Bob at the starport - about 30km away - this adds +10, so the Difficultly is 29 (13+6+10)

Now - how strong the force event - is based on the ROLL Fred made - he got a 23 - so subtract this from the Difficulty. (alternatively - if the event was very simple the GM may decide to just subtract the difficulty level target number the Force User was trying to hit - as a character may not use all their power for a simple task....but lets stay on target here....).

So, the chance for Bob to detect Fred's use of telekinesis is;
Base Difficulty Moderate (12) + Relationship (+7) + proximity (+10) : 29 - Fred's Roll of 23 = 6.

Force Awareness uses the Sense Skill which Bob has at 4D+1, - so Bob is prolly going to detect Fred!!

now - darth vader is 3 sectors away - should he roll too?
(technically - with these rules - you could detect a big enough event across the galaxy) - the answer - ONLY if it is important to the story....

Sensing the Force in An Individual.

The Sense force Skill is a bit more simple.
It has many things a Force user can do with it... but the relevant one here is;
Gauge Force Potential: Used to determine if an individual is
Force Sensitive (has a non-zero Force Attribute) The Base
Difficulty is DL4: Difficult, reduced by the Die Code (D) of their
Force Attribute, modified by Proximity and Relationship.

So start with Difficult (the 4th difficulty level) reduce this by the die code of the target's Force Attribute, then modify by proximity and relationship.

Example: Steve the Sith is looking for Fred the Jedi in a cantina - so he uses Sense force to find him.
The base Difficulty for Sense force is DL4: Difficult. Fred has a Force Attribute of 3D, so this reduces the base Difficulty down to DL1: Very easy. The gm sets this at a 4.

however - Steve only knows Fred by Reputation - the relationship modifier is +15 = up to 19.
But - Fred is literally in the room! This increases the difficulty by +2, or up to 21.
If steve can roll his Sense skill and beat a 21, we will know the hooded character in the corner is his Force user!

So yes - a jedi staring you in the face, if they try - can detect another force user without too much trouble.

That is why I also have a House rule of a force power called Force Veil - to hide from other force users....but that, is another topic.

Wait..I don't use your house rules
Well...fair enough. Yeah, I know - I need to publish them...

But the basic concept - is the same.
Set a base difficulty, modify it by range and relationship - then reduce that difficulty by how strong the force event or force user is you are trying to detect.
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[raithyn]

You do need to publish your rules. I've stolen bits and pieces from your previous posts.

[pakman]

[garhkal]

You only need worry, if you get caught!
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[TauntaunScout]

Yes, they can be sensed. For example, Vader says of Luke while chasing his X-Wing, having no idea who he is, "the Force is strong with this one".