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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

garhkal wrote:
Since using TK to injure others is normally a DSP giving event, i wonder how shadowbombing *using a TK based power* does not give one?

Just more proof that the authors of the EU didn't feel the need to limit themselves to WEG's arbitrary standards of what is right and wrong when it comes to the Force.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

denderan marajain wrote:
TK????

Telekinesis.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crmcneill wrote:
garhkal wrote:
Since using TK to injure others is normally a DSP giving event, i wonder how shadowbombing *using a TK based power* does not give one?

Just more proof that the authors of the EU didn't feel the need to limit themselves to WEG's arbitrary standards of what is right and wrong when it comes to the Force.


Some rules lawyering here is that you're not, in fact, attacking a (specific) person when using a shadow bomb, you're in fact sort of showing the warhead telekinetically towards a structure. The side effect of this is, of course, that said structure is likely to rupture, and heaps of until recently living creatures stop, you know, living.

A second interpretation on a technicality might be that the Vong don't really have a presence in the Force, and as such (unless you have Vongsense) don't count for Dark Side points.

Me, I'm slightly in disagreement with WEG 'canon' here at any rate. It doesn't matter whether you're using the Force on a target with a presence in the Force or not. What matters, is your own attitude at the time you're using the Force. If you're angry, scared, hating or otherwise engaged in a Dark Side mindset, you're getting a Dark Side point no matter what you're doing.

Yes, that includes healing someone in my opinion, or otherwise doing 'benevolent' actions. It's your attitude that colors the use of the Force, not what you're actually using the Force for. An intent and context versus action, if you will. Usually it doesn't matter what your mental attitude is (it is unlikely to get a Dark Side point from me as a GM while the character is using First Aid on someone unless there's some really strange context going on here), but when you're opened up to the universe through the Force, that all changes.

So... if you're angry, aggressive, fearful or even hateful while using Shadow Bomb TK (why it's not just a separate use of TK I'll never know), you get a Dark Side point. I don't care about the target in that sense. However, allowing the bomb to detonate at the target might be a separate Dark Side point, for instance willfully targeting an orphanage or a hospital as opposed to at least a nominally military target (I'm uncomfortable with armed medical frigates, for instance, which muddies the waters somewhat).
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