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Zarm R'keeg Commander
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Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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I suppose it's implicit in the whole 'xenomorph' name- Aliens 3 is just the first to make it explicit by actually showing an organism OTHER than a human as host.
Now, if only they could've done it without killing Hicks and Newt, which one reviewer rightly described as 'an abomination'... _________________ Star Wars: Marvels, the audio drama: www.nolinecinemas.com
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garhkal Sovereign Protector
Joined: 17 Jul 2005 Posts: 14253 Location: Reynoldsburg, Columbus, Ohio.
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Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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On one of my Btech sites (iirc) when we were discussing aliens etc, someone mentioned there WAS a script wrote out that did have Hicks and newt survive, but cause the powers that be supposedly only wanted one big name from the last film in the new one (similar to how ripley was the only one from Alien to survive) they went with who was bringing in the audiences. _________________ Confucious sayeth, don't wash cat while drunk! |
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CRMcNeill Director of Engineering
Joined: 05 Apr 2010 Posts: 16345 Location: Redding System, California Sector, on the I-5 Hyperspace Route.
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Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:22 am Post subject: |
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Technically, xenomorph refers only to alien life forms in general, not aliens in particular. Xeno for "different", morph for "form". Lieutenant Gorman used the term once in the film, and fans took the term and ran with it. _________________ "No set of rules can cover every situation. It's expected that you will make up new rules to suit the needs of your game." - The Star Wars Roleplaying Game, 2R&E, pg. 69, WEG, 1996.
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Leon The Lion Commander
Joined: 29 Oct 2009 Posts: 309 Location: Somewhere in Poland
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Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 4:25 am Post subject: |
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garhkal wrote: | On one of my Btech sites (iirc) when we were discussing aliens etc, someone mentioned there WAS a script wrote out that did have Hicks and newt survive, but cause the powers that be supposedly only wanted one big name from the last film in the new one (similar to how ripley was the only one from Alien to survive) they went with who was bringing in the audiences. |
The way I remember to have heard it, the movie stewed in Development Hell for so long it vent overbudget pretty much from constant script re-writes alone. Big part of the problem was supposedly Sigourney herself being moody about the whole thing, first not wanting to return, then wanting to, then wanting more money, then not wanting to return again, etc.
Anyway, I'm in possession of one of the earlier scripts for Alien 3 that was circulationg on the net sometime back. Written by William Gibson, no less.
It's not terrible, but not so great either, imho. Both Newt and Hicks survive, but Newt and Ripley herself are quickly "put on a bus" and Hicks becomes the new main character.
If anyone's interested I'd be happy to share. _________________ Plagiarize! Let no one else's work evade your eyes,
Remember why the good Lord made your eyes! So don't shade your eyes,
But plagiarize, plagiarize, plagiarize... Only be sure to call it, please, "research".
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Zarm R'keeg Commander
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Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 11:49 am Post subject: |
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crmcneill wrote: | Technically, xenomorph refers only to alien life forms in general, not aliens in particular. Xeno for "different", morph for "form". Lieutenant Gorman used the term once in the film, and fans took the term and ran with it. |
See, that showcases my linguistic ignorance. I would have simply assumed it was 'Xeno' (Alien), Morph (Take the form of). Which sounds good in my head, as most things I make up off the top of it do. _________________ Star Wars: Marvels, the audio drama: www.nolinecinemas.com
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CRMcNeill Director of Engineering
Joined: 05 Apr 2010 Posts: 16345 Location: Redding System, California Sector, on the I-5 Hyperspace Route.
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Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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Zarm R'keeg wrote: | crmcneill wrote: | Technically, xenomorph refers only to alien life forms in general, not aliens in particular. Xeno for "different", morph for "form". Lieutenant Gorman used the term once in the film, and fans took the term and ran with it. |
See, that showcases my linguistic ignorance. I would have simply assumed it was 'Xeno' (Alien), Morph (Take the form of). Which sounds good in my head, as most things I make up off the top of it do. |
I agree that it does sound like a good fit. However, in the canon context of the Alien universe, xenomorph was just bureaucratese for "alien lifeform". Oh well. I don't care what its called so long as I never meet one in person. _________________ "No set of rules can cover every situation. It's expected that you will make up new rules to suit the needs of your game." - The Star Wars Roleplaying Game, 2R&E, pg. 69, WEG, 1996.
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