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Mikael Hasselstein
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much are books like Tramp Freighters really necessary acquisitions now that so many of the ships are available on the D6Holocron?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are making use of the collection pdfs, then no, you dont really need books like Tramp Freighters. Unless you like having a hard copy. Since I dont take my laptop to all my gaming sessions, I personally like having a hard copy on hand.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mikael Hasselstein wrote:
How much are books like Tramp Freighters really necessary acquisitions now that so many of the ships are available on the D6Holocron?


Tramp Freighters is pretty much the only official source available for modifying space transports. A lot of the gear mentioned in Tramp Freighters is covered in the Equipment Compilation, but not everything. Without Tramp Freighters, you don't have the modification tables, the mod mishap tables, and you're also missing the trading rules (if you want to run that sort of campaign). I bought it because I want to have a complete set, but it also proves itself very useful in games on a pretty regular basis.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And in addition to all those rules and such, Tramp Freighters has those nice, atmospheric illustrations too. 8)
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crmcneill wrote:
Mikael Hasselstein wrote:
How much are books like Tramp Freighters really necessary acquisitions now that so many of the ships are available on the D6Holocron?


Tramp Freighters is pretty much the only official source available for modifying space transports. A lot of the gear mentioned in Tramp Freighters is covered in the Equipment Compilation, but not everything. Without Tramp Freighters, you don't have the modification tables, the mod mishap tables, and you're also missing the trading rules (if you want to run that sort of campaign). I bought it because I want to have a complete set, but it also proves itself very useful in games on a pretty regular basis.


Can you use those trading rules then in the first edition pretty much as is with revised and expanded or is there a little bit of rules tweaking to do?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cowboy Hat wrote:
Can you use those trading rules then in the first edition pretty much as is with revised and expanded or is there a little bit of rules tweaking to do?


I've never read 1E Tramp Freighters, so I can't say for certain what the differences are. I can't imagine it being too different, though...
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cowboy Hat wrote:
Can you use those trading rules then in the first edition pretty much as is with revised and expanded or is there a little bit of rules tweaking to do?


There's no tweaking of the trading rules. The drop-point delivery, speculative trading, black market, and loan sharks rules are the same for both editions, except that 2E actually has a layout error that cuts out part of the trading rules, so 1E is a little more complete in that respect. Converting to 2E is not that hard if you want to be economical and use the 1E version. I had TF 1E for many years and used it before I upgraded to 2E.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A man after my own heart. I also buy copies of R&E (and the aforementioned companion Trilogy Sourcebook) whenever I find them (I have several second-hand book stores in my area). Never paid more than $9.98. I have given away several copies of those books over the years.


I wish I had used bookstores in my area that specialize in RP books ... infortunately the only one I know of in Denmark is in Copenhagen ... 4 hours away
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Henrik.Balslev wrote:
Whill wrote:
A man after my own heart. I also buy copies of R&E (and the aforementioned companion Trilogy Sourcebook) whenever I find them (I have several second-hand book stores in my area). Never paid more than $9.98. I have given away several copies of those books over the years.


I wish I had used bookstores in my area that specialize in RP books ... infortunately the only one I know of in Denmark is in Copenhagen ... 4 hours away


There used to be quite a few where I used to live, now I play the auction game on ebay and the like which is at times very frustrating.
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