Dark Side Points

[Whill]

[Urban Spaceman]

That's always been the way I've thought of it, when trying to justify it in game terms.
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[Bren]

I have heard the "Affect Mind" explanation many times and while possible it doesn't seem to fit well with how the powers work in WEG. It really looks more like he is Force Choking them, just like Vader on the Death Star in A New Hope.

In the movies though, it appears that relationship effects DSPs. The closer the relationship, the more likely an action may result in a DSP. You are more likely to get a DSP for trying to kill your father, than for choking unconcious two nameless Gamorrean NPC guards. Doesn't really work with the WEG system, but dramatically it makes some sense.

Dramatic math also explains why Anakin didn't turn immediately after killing all those Tusken raiders and their children. He didn't get 1 DSP per person. He got 1 or 2 DSPs for the entire incident since there was only one named NPC (his mom) connected to that scene. Anakin had no personal connection to the Tuskens so they din't really count on an individual basis. Just my .02 credits.

[Urban Spaceman]

There's always going to be problems converting what we see in the movies in to game terms.
Can be quite fun though!
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"The ships hung in the sky in much the same way that bricks don't."

[Whill]

[Anakin]

[Kilgore]

In my oppinion the GM should somehow warn the player that his or her actions are so evil that she might end up receiving a Dark Side Point if he or she proceeds. Burning down an orphanage, really dememented acts like abuse and all sorts of non-typical star wars evil acts.

And I also suggest that giving the point after the game session, and not after the act so the GM has time to think about wether to give the point or not.

This way it should not matter if the execute 1 or 15 Neimoidian nurses onboard the Jutlandia-Space Station or whatever. It should be the act itself and not the number of time it is done that gets the player the point.

[Bren]

[garhkal]

For me, if it is borderline, i warn. If flat out dark side, i don't.. they do it they get the point. And i give it there and then.
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[vanir]

I tend to think of the FP/DSP system as containing an element of a reputation system within itself. Consider that there's a light side and a dark side to it but the Force is still the Force. C'mon you know you want to join my ambition to rule the galaxy! No but seriously the Force isn't driving these decisions, it merely represents that it is also used by those of dark intent, and maintains dark consequences we all get to put up with for those things. The Force itself just is, lil' bit like a karma system complete with transcendant afterlife.

Well the whole driving system behind the karma trip is a classical view of physics which was maintained in the orient (originally transmitted via central asia), where we had the dark ages and lost it all in western Europe.

Their view of karmic spirits, kami, vampiric ghosts, enlightenment and reincarnation, these things spring from the elemental theories and basic classical greek tenant for the structure of the universe, which was very theological and thus philosophical in nature. But it presents itself as a pseudoscience and seems quite physical for the practitioner.

The best way to think of it is by assuming terms such as the Jungian subconscious, quantum brain activity interactions, and other basic elemental theories relating to a structured, but supernatural universe. If Jung's Collective Subconscious existed for example, which some PhD psychiatrists consider a real possibility, then the entire foundation of the modern mental health facility would be brought into question, which can have political repurcussions, and it would mean we're all born with basic telepathy skills like Jedi. It's a bit weird, yaknow. But possible and therefore exciting.

Jedi live in the galaxy where these things are not only real, but a part of mundane life among practitioners and sympathisers of which there are relatively many. Viewing the living mind as part of a subconscious massive networking then the things you do can very well influence sociology and your presence among communities. Dark Side Points are sort of like doing bad things to people from afar and then walking among the ones you did it to. There's sort of an air about it that you might not have considered.

Sort of a mix between a reputation system and a mystical energy field, that's how I've been using the Force.

[ZzaphodD]

[garhkal]

And what do they do if they don't have Jedi lore?
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[ZzaphodD]

[Bren]

[Bren]