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| Gry Sarth wrote: | | How lightsaber buttons work is a very tricky thing. It would seem that it's a button that needs to be constantly pressed down (since sabers always turn off when they fall off their wielder's hands). But if that were the case, it would be practically impossible to twirl a saber or change grips while maintaining the blade ignited. I remember reading somewhere about pressure plates on the saber hilt, so that the saber would turn off if it wasn't being gripped anymore. |
Reminds me of a H&K P7.
Rather than a safey switch, the P7 has a squeeze saety in the grip. If you don't hold done on the grip, the weapon cannot fire.
Something like that seems to make sense as the default for lightsabers.
Otherwise, the inevitable disarm would probably end up with both combantant sliced in two.
BTW<
I was thinking Sense in order to anticipate the opponent's attack and then counter it. Much the way they use Sense to augment lightsaber skill.
But either way, so long as the modfiier is high enough to make this tactic unlikely to succeed
Perhaps the called shot modifer should apply? The +4D for a object under 10cm, tacked onto a difficulty or very difficult task would explain a lot. like why the Jedi didn't use this tactic on Grevious. |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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Either way, dont forget the DSP!
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| Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Why would there be a DSP? You're turning off the LS so that you can retreat. |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:05 pm Post subject: Re: Tking the lightsaber off.. |
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| garhkal wrote: | Doug Mc Dark jedi and Jedi Joe (the real allderannian hero..  ) are engaged in a lightsaber fight. Joe realises he is outclassed, but comes up with the idea of using TK to switch off Doug's lightsaber just as he is swinging against Doug.. thereby negating Doug's parry. How would you handle this? |
The deal was to use the tk to kill someone?
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| Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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No, the TK would simply turn off your opponent lightsaber. That in itself does not warrant a DSP. Whatever you actions after that is what will define whether you get a DSP or not. If it's just a normal combat against a clearly evil foe, whom you have no other choice but to kill, then turning off his lightsaber and following that with a killing strike shouldn't give you a DSP.
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Interesting responses so far.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:15 am Post subject: |
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| Gry Sarth wrote: | | No, the TK would simply turn off your opponent lightsaber. That in itself does not warrant a DSP. Whatever you actions after that is what will define whether you get a DSP or not. If it's just a normal combat against a clearly evil foe, whom you have no other choice but to kill, then turning off his lightsaber and following that with a killing strike shouldn't give you a DSP. |
OK...so if I lift 500000000 kg over your head with TK and just release it its not a dsp? I sure hope my GM gives me this kind of slack 
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| Random Numbers wrote: | | Gry Sarth wrote: | | No, the TK would simply turn off your opponent lightsaber. That in itself does not warrant a DSP. Whatever you actions after that is what will define whether you get a DSP or not. If it's just a normal combat against a clearly evil foe, whom you have no other choice but to kill, then turning off his lightsaber and following that with a killing strike shouldn't give you a DSP. |
OK...so if I lift 500000000 kg over your head with TK and just release it its not a dsp? I sure hope my GM gives me this kind of slack |
Depends, if Gry is a Dark Jedi who is attacking you, then yes, that would not warrant a DSP.
If however Gry is just some random passer-by then DSP should be issued. |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:57 am Post subject: |
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| Random Numbers wrote: | | Gry Sarth wrote: | | No, the TK would simply turn off your opponent lightsaber. That in itself does not warrant a DSP. Whatever you actions after that is what will define whether you get a DSP or not. If it's just a normal combat against a clearly evil foe, whom you have no other choice but to kill, then turning off his lightsaber and following that with a killing strike shouldn't give you a DSP. |
OK...so if I lift 500000000 kg over your head with TK and just release it its not a dsp? I sure hope my GM gives me this kind of slack |
I'm not entirely sure I completely agree with Gry but I don't think I'd agree with this either (but then who am I to really argue when I've not given my players a single DSP for killing dark side creatures that were too wounded to fight back).
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| Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:58 am Post subject: |
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| Praxian wrote: |
Depends, if Gry is a Dark Jedi who is attacking you, then yes, that would not warrant a DSP.
If however Gry is just some random passer-by then DSP should be issued. |
I'd say using tk to close a door and preventing the bad guy from escape is not a dsp. Turning off someones lightsaber just as you strike, or throwing stuff on them to kill thim is preatty clear cut. There are always grey zones, and I guess that you COULD argue that turning of the lightsaber wasnt the reason they died.
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Precicely. If i tk you in place (so you cannot dodge) and someone shoots you in the head cause ofit, i am getting a DSP>
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| garhkal wrote: | | Precicely. If i tk you in place (so you cannot dodge) and someone shoots you in the head cause ofit, i am getting a DSP> |
Depends, did you -know- that they were gonna shoot someone in the head? Was it planned out ahead of time? Or were you just TK'ing them in place so they couldn't move and thus, were disabled?
Again, there's always shades of grey. |
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In this case I'm pretty sure the tking Jedi knows whats going to happen if he turns of the lightsaber. But we can agree to disagree!
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| Hellcat wrote: | | I'm not entirely sure I completely agree with Gry but I don't think I'd agree with this either (but then who am I to really argue when I've not given my players a single DSP for killing dark side creatures that were too wounded to fight back). |
Not even for killing creatures that someone went to the trouble of incapacitating for future study.
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Someone who argues the point of 'shades of gray' to hard is imo trying to skirt around getting a DSP. And i love to follow the old adage, if you have to ask if it is wrong, then it was.
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