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garhkal Sovereign Protector
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 2:41 pm Post subject: YT-2400??? |
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In the starships of the galaxy/essential guide to vehicles and vessels as well as stock ships, this corellian craft is described as a having decent speed and maneuverability, but so far ONLY one of the 3 D6 sourcebooks for it, list an actual maneuverability rating (of 1d+1) and speed of 4.. Exactly the same as a stock slow Ghtroc or YT1300..
So, is its maneuverability 1d+1 as pirates and privateers listed it as, or is it 0d as both the other sources have it as? _________________ Confucious sayeth, don't wash cat while drunk! |
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Whill Dark Lord of the Jedi (Owner/Admin)
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 11:14 pm Post subject: Re: YT-2400??? |
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garhkal wrote: | In the starships of the galaxy/essential guide to vehicles and vessels as well as stock ships, this corellian craft is described as a having decent speed and maneuverability, but so far ONLY one of the 3 D6 sourcebooks for it, list an actual maneuverability rating (of 1d+1) and speed of 4.. Exactly the same as a stock slow Ghtroc or YT1300..
So, is its maneuverability 1d+1 as pirates and privateers listed it as, or is it 0d as both the other sources have it as? |
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Wajeb Deb Kaadeb Commodore
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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I believe the base model and the Lambarian Crab from Stock ships has 0D Maneuver.
The Outrider from the Shadows of the Empire hardback has 2D maneuver.
Remember, the Falcon has 2D maneuver. |
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CRMcNeill Director of Engineering
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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Stock Ships is a questionable source anyway. If you take it at its word, the YT-2400 doesn't have an engine room or a boarding ramp (of any kind) either. _________________ "No set of rules can cover every situation. It's expected that you will make up new rules to suit the needs of your game." - The Star Wars Roleplaying Game, 2R&E, pg. 69, WEG, 1996.
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Wajeb Deb Kaadeb Commodore
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Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:10 am Post subject: |
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CRMcNeill wrote: | Stock Ships is a questionable source anyway. If you take it at its word, the YT-2400 doesn't have an engine room or a boarding ramp (of any kind) either. |
Well, those don't come stock.
To be completely fair, though, there is an unlabeled hatch aft of the cockpit. Maybe the stock vessels only come with this. It's a small vessel. Haul cargo through the hatch using a wench or grav paddles. If you want a bigger ramp and/or a cargo ramp, then you pay extra.
It does have an engine room. Area 17. |
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garhkal Sovereign Protector
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Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:18 am Post subject: |
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Wajeb Deb Kaadeb wrote: | I believe the base model and the Lambarian Crab from Stock ships has 0D Maneuver.
The Outrider from the Shadows of the Empire hardback has 2D maneuver.
Remember, the Falcon has 2D maneuver. |
Actually, stock ships doesn't even list a maneuverability line, let alone list it at 0d. _________________ Confucious sayeth, don't wash cat while drunk! |
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Wajeb Deb Kaadeb Commodore
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Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:10 am Post subject: |
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garhkal wrote: | Wajeb Deb Kaadeb wrote: | I believe the base model and the Lambarian Crab from Stock ships has 0D Maneuver.
The Outrider from the Shadows of the Empire hardback has 2D maneuver.
Remember, the Falcon has 2D maneuver. |
Actually, stock ships doesn't even list a maneuverability line, let alone list it at 0d. |
Typically, the line is omitted if the ship has Maneuver 0D. Like the Scout Ship on page 256 RE.
Stock Ships does have some vessels with Maneuver. For example, the very first entry. Those without the line do not have a maneuver code (it is 0D).
The description of the 2400 is that it is a very old, aging design--over a decade old. Which puts it as a new ship during the prequels. |
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CRMcNeill Director of Engineering
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Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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Wajeb Deb Kaadeb wrote: | To be completely fair, though, there is an unlabeled hatch aft of the cockpit. Maybe the stock vessels only come with this. It's a small vessel. Haul cargo through the hatch using a wench or grav paddles. If you want a bigger ramp and/or a cargo ramp, then you pay extra.
It does have an engine room. Area 17. |
Still a questionable design. I prefer this one...
It's based off one of the old video games (probably Shadows of the Empire, but I can't say for sure). Bottom line for me is, WEG's ship designs (including their deck plans) are questionable at best, and Stock Ships is a case in point. _________________ "No set of rules can cover every situation. It's expected that you will make up new rules to suit the needs of your game." - The Star Wars Roleplaying Game, 2R&E, pg. 69, WEG, 1996.
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garhkal Sovereign Protector
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Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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Wajeb Deb Kaadeb wrote: |
Typically, the line is omitted if the ship has Maneuver 0D. Like the Scout Ship on page 256 RE.. |
But even the complete starships collection lists it that way.. Not just STock ships.. And it does list several other ships at 0d maneuverability.. _________________ Confucious sayeth, don't wash cat while drunk! |
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Bren Vice Admiral
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Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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Wajeb Deb Kaadeb wrote: | It's a small vessel. Haul cargo through the hatch using a wench or grav paddles. | Or use child labor instead of wenches. |
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Wajeb Deb Kaadeb Commodore
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Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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Bren wrote: | Wajeb Deb Kaadeb wrote: | It's a small vessel. Haul cargo through the hatch using a wench or grav paddles. | Or use child labor instead of wenches. |
LOL!
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jmanski Arbiter-General (Moderator)
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe he meant wench.... 8) _________________ Blasted rules. Why can't they just be perfect? |
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Sutehp Commodore
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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CRMcNeill wrote: | Stock Ships is a questionable source anyway. If you take it at its word, the YT-2400 doesn't have an engine room or a boarding ramp (of any kind) either. |
Not to mention that the superstructure where the captain's cabin is supposed to be is half the height of the cockpit. Is that tight crawlspace supposed to be where the captain sleeps? A Jawa could barely fit in there! _________________ Sutehp's RPG Goodies
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Wajeb Deb Kaadeb Commodore
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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garhkal wrote: | But even the complete starships collection lists it that way.. Not just STock ships.. And it does list several other ships at 0d maneuverability.. |
What complete starship collection list? |
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garhkal Sovereign Protector
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Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:52 am Post subject: |
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The COmplete starship PDF... _________________ Confucious sayeth, don't wash cat while drunk! |
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