Ever had a player peeved off for losing gear?

[garhkal]

This past Friday at Origins during one of the modules i ran, one of the baddies was shooting at a PC who had actually hurt him (no one else up to then touched him). Now had i shot the player, the damage was close enough to have put the player at MW (with a 20M fall, potentially wounding him which would have pushed him to dead), so rather than that, i chose to call shot his weapon to destroy it, removing the chance of him hitting the weapon.
The player got so peeved i did that, when i asked would "you rather i have potentially killed your PC" he actually said yes?

So anyone had a situation like that crop up?
Did you give the player their wish?
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[cheshire]

Urrrgh. I'd rather not go into too many details in a public forum, but yes. Sometimes players can get irrational about the game. The mentality I hear far to often is that it's a game, it's supposed to be fun. When things go from fun to frustrating, then the GM should have calibrated better.
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[garhkal]

So what.. i should have just shot him and if he died, left that as is? Fudged so he didn't lose his weapon?
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[thedemonapostle]

"The GM giveth, the GM taketh away."

variations of that have been said in our games since i started gaming.

i admit that on more than just a few occasions i have destroyed characters goods so they wouldnt die outright and that in and of itself caused the player(s) to whine about how hard it was to get said item(s). we had been banned from playing at some places because of how frequently the players would royally screw up a roll or ten.

which reminds me of something that i cant recall if its in the rules or not but we used a lot. the force point do over. that you can burn a force point to reroll any single roll youve made, but no farther back that 10 rolls. you dont get it back at the end its gone and you need to earn it again the hard way. no extra dice, no extra bonuses just a simple reroll. but and here the thing some dont like, the GM gets to reroll all affected rolls as well including the one that caused them to roll to begin with.
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[garhkal]

[Kytross]

Players getting irrational isn't the same thing as the game being too frustrating. Give him a chance to vent and cool down and see if he wants to keep playing.

You may need to remind them that a destroyed weapon inevitably leads to a quest to obtain or build a greater weapon. Consider reading Taran Wanderer, it's a kids' book, quick read and filled with heroic motifs and story ideas.

If it was a lightsaber that broke then the journey to forge another could be a great solo quest.

[schnarre]

...I've seen, a few times more than I like to admit, PCs becoming nothing more than the sum of their equipment. Attachment to whatever item--weapon, ship, armor, etc..--that basically takes the character over, as opposed to the bond Han Solo has with the Millenium Falcon, for example.
...Still, for a player to prefer character death over loss of a piece of gear seems pretty ridiculous. Next time, oblige him!
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[CRMcNeill]

I had a GM go out of his way to take my Jedi character's lightsaber on a technicality (fell into a pit trap with a mud pit at the bottom and he ruled that I lost my saber in the fall and couldn't find it). Considering how central a lightsaber is to a Jedi character's combat ability, plus how hard it is to replace, I was pretty peeved, and justifiably so, I think.

IMO, equipment shouldn't be more important than the character for the most part. By this, I mean that there are some exceptions, like a ship, a custom blaster pistol or a lightsaber that either always manage to find their way back to the character or are taken away as part of a story arc, with the potential for replacing it with something better.
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[garhkal]

[shootingwomprats]

[garhkal]

A) it was the first 'token' he got from his first bounty collected so it had some 'pride of the hunt' to it, and B it was modified by the person he took it from, so it was better than normal.
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[Hartbaine]

Sometimes players get worked up without thinking. While granted, some players are just plain immature (we've all dealt with them, I'm sure), most are usually just in a fit of frustration over the situation. Especially in D6, where the combat is brutal and one blaster shot will end your career. The goal is not to get hit first and secondly, hope that your armor will save the day if the unspeakable happens.

Try basic psychology next time, it's how I always do it. Basically, if they lose their temper, stop being the GM for a moment and simply give them the choice. Like in your scenario:

"Okay, you have options here. This shot will kill you, unfortunately. However, you may choose to have it take out your weapon instead. Your weapon will be destroyed, but you live. How do you want to handle it?"

Using 'unfortunately' makes you sympathetic to them. Make sure you phrase it with something close to you choose. This puts the ball in their court, taking the heat off you as the Evil Empire. 'How do you want to handle it?' makes everything their call. Just make sure you stick to your guns when they make the choice. It may take a few tantrums, but eventually the person will learn not to ape at the table.

You're not picking on them, and if they make the choice they don't like they will know they have no one to blame but themselves. The table will usually back you up as well. You will seem like a fair and lenient GM (you offer choices), and they will look like the bad guy, after all, they're the one throwing the tantrum. It's a common tactic and works on the smallest child up to the oldest adults.

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