Preferred Combat Rules: 1E, 2E, 2R&E or House Rules

[CRMcNeill]

As part of a larger project, a few of us are looking at what set of rules best represents starfighter vs. capital ship combat, specifically scale, coordination methods and bonuses, precision ship location targeting, etc. I've reached the point where I use my own house rules for scale and coordination, but I'd like to hear some input on what the rest of you think are the best rules to use, and why.
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"No set of rules can cover every situation. It's expected that you will make up new rules to suit the needs of your game." - The Star Wars Roleplaying Game, 2R&E, pg. 69, WEG, 1996.

The CRMcNeill Stat/Rule Index

[wildfire]

Mainly 2nd R&E with various house rules used and changed over the years.

Have changed the scale rules recently and have used the optional targeting rules before , coordination hasn't been a big factor in most games, as massed fighter strikes tend to get shunted to cut away scenes and the game focus on the players attacks, which are normally pin point to hit vital targets.

[DougRed4]

Like wildfire, I mainly use 2R&E with a few house rules. Coordination is one I'm planning on changing (plan to discuss it next session) and we just started using crmcneill's new scale rules (though I figure you should probably use RAW for others, being as it will make things the most accessible).

I haven't done large scale battles with capital ships yet, though I have seen it done in a different campaign. Like wildfire, the action for the PCs tended to focus on what they were doing, with the GM narrating what happened elsewhere (rather than rolling a bunch for NPCs).
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Currently Running: Villains & Vigilantes (a 32-year-old campaign with multiple groups) and D6 Star Wars; mostly on hiatus are Adventures in Middle-earth and Delta Green

[Mikael Hasselstein]

As Crmcneill knows, I'm not particularly well-read into the different rulesets, but I'm interested in the rationales you choose when choosing what rules to go with. I can see three logics:

1) The rules that are the easiest
2) The rules that are the most realistic
3) The rules that are happen to be in the book you have/use.

Which best characterizes your reason for your decision to use the rules you use?

[wildfire]

3) they are in the book I have, 2nd R&E also it the book most of my players have/had access to, saves explaining rules too often during games.

My house rules get written up and passed round each session for reference.

[DougRed4]

For the most part I just go with 2R&E, but my house rules is worth a page or two of additional/supplemental rules.

I have them printed out and at the table (for my use, as well as any player that wants to see them), and they're also listed on our webpage.

I don't do house rules because it's easier, most realistic, or that simply happen to be the ones I have access to. I/we do rules changes to tighten up or fix problems we see in the game, to make things more streamlined and consistent, or to better model the world(s) of the franchise.
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Currently Running: Villains & Vigilantes (a 32-year-old campaign with multiple groups) and D6 Star Wars; mostly on hiatus are Adventures in Middle-earth and Delta Green

[atgxtg]

We'll I went from 2E to 2R&E a few years back, when I discovered R&E existed. Then I houseruled a few things. Now I'm finding that there are a few rules from 2E (segmented movement in in space/vehicle combat, the ability to attack while going all-out, the old combined fire rules), 1E (haste, targeted attacks, capital ship battle rules, no templates, simpler Force rules, the old combined fire rules ), and even stuff from Star Warriors (pretty much the entire thing- it's better at space combat than the RPG rules) that I miss.

[garhkal]

IMO the scale of 2e revised is quicker to use, but the base 2e ones were more 'balanced'.
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[Mikael Hasselstein]

[atgxtg]

[garhkal]

[jmanski]

[CRMcNeill]

My only reservation on the scale modifier is that it seems to negate the idea of stat variations entirely. Why bother giving differing Hull and Shield strengths when you can just give everything a 1D, then assign an appropriate modifier?
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"No set of rules can cover every situation. It's expected that you will make up new rules to suit the needs of your game." - The Star Wars Roleplaying Game, 2R&E, pg. 69, WEG, 1996.

The CRMcNeill Stat/Rule Index

[atgxtg]

[atgxtg]