Force power being used on you. Do you know where/who?

garhkal

Brought out of my thread for Sith Force Sink.

Would a jedi pc who is being targeted by a enemy jedi with a force power that can be used beyond 10-40 or so meters (eg NOT force lightning, force bolt etc) be able to tell where it is coming from?

IE, john jedi and his rebel comrades are waltzing through town on a busy street, trying to blend in since there are storm troopers all over the place. Sid sith on a roof top, say 400 meters away has sight on him due to using Enhance senses (vision), and then tries to activate TK kill. Would john know where sid is?
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CRMcNeill · Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:54 pm Post subject:

I know my response in the other thread covered this already, but hey, new thread, same answer...

I think yes, for two reasons:

1). A power like this is going to create a major disturbance in the Force, making the power user easier to track down.

2). This power is a one on one connection, where power is being drawn from one being into another via the Force. With a high enough Sense roll, the character should be able to recognize the flow of the "current" and trace it back to its source.
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garhkal · Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:55 pm Post subject:

What of for other powers.. like TK, Or affect mind? Or receptive telepathy..?
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CRMcNeill · Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:03 am Post subject:

garhkal · Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:44 am Post subject:

Hmm.. moderate to me (especially with it being a free roll) seems a little too low.
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CRMcNeill · Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 4:02 am Post subject:

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garhkal · Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:46 am Post subject:

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This came up in a game once. My personal solution for the game was it was the affected Force Users Sense vs the Opposing force users Alter.

If the sense beat the alter, the sense one knew roughly where they were (somewhere up there) as opposed to 400m exactly that way.

Sure, they can use the "well they have to be sending out lots of force ripples" which is true - but are you gonna examine the ripples while they try to kill you or are you gonna move?

Ankhanu · Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:03 pm Post subject:

My gut reaction is no. There are plenty of examples of Force powers being used on Jedi and the Jedi not being able to locate the source in the EU material. I think would be possible for the Jedi to figure it out, but it would take some effort on their part, not a simple "ack, that hurts... ah, there's where it's coming from". They would have to make use of Sense powers to follow the ripples.

More often than not, from what I've read, when there is a significant "Force ripple" effect due to powerful uses or entities in the Force it comes across more like Spiderman's spidey-sense; a general "something's going on" rather than a "look to the left!" sensation. There are exceptions, but generally it seems to be unfocused. Jedi then can focus on that premonition or feeling to get more information.
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Grimace · Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:12 pm Post subject:

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Wouldn't Combat Sense be more along the lines of "useful" for pin-pointing exactly where the person is?

CRMcNeill · Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:23 pm Post subject:

garhkal · Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:47 pm Post subject:

To grimace, that precicely is to me why it should be a little more diff (just using a sense roll on its own), cause there are powers that could already be used for doing this which are easier to activate/get info from.
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Grimace · Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:34 pm Post subject:

There may be other Force powers, but one has to be brought up BEFORE the attack in order to work (Danger Sense) and one has to be brought up AFTER the attack in order to get the benefit...or the target would have to know where the attack was coming from first which defeats the whole aspect of an unsuspecting attack (Combat Sense).

Danger Sense requires a Moderate roll and can be kept up (would need to be kept up in order to work against the attack and would remove the surprise of the attack anyway) and Combat Sense requires a Moderate roll.

So why is a Moderate Sense roll so far out of the question in determining where the attack came from IF the target survives the attack?

TK attack on unsuspecting (meaning no Danger Sense in use) Jedi. Jedi survives the TK attack. Now if he doesn't find out where the attack is coming from he can't very well activate Combat Sense because he doesn't have an opponent. So it's not unreasonable to give him an equal chance of determining where the attack came from so then he could decide whether the bring up Combat Sense or Danger Sense or both or do something else completely different. Why make it so difficult for him to tell where an attack on himself came from when other powers aren't that difficult and either help him before an attack even happens or provides additional defense when an attack comes from a known opponent?

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