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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wolfe wrote:
You are still not comprehending it correctly, even though you typed it yourself.


Actually, I did a cut and paste from the OCR I'm working with. So my mistake is only slightly less embarrassing.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not embarrassing, what I meant by that statement was if you read it and then write it you "supposedly" have a better chance of comprehending the subject (it's what the instructors at Point told us years ago anyways).

Besides people don't always comprehend what is written the same way.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny. I tell my students the same thing. However, it's why I'm a fan of hand-writing the things I'm trying to study. The hand motion of writing develops comprehension far better than typing.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well no offense but I found that theory to be bullsh!t.
It does help memory retention, but does little for actual comprehension.
It has helped me remember quite vividly how badly I (and alot of others) have comprehended quite a few things over the decades.

The only thing I have found that truly helps comprehension is the "round table routine" (bouncing it off other people).
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are the facts: There are two more books currently planned for WotC through April of 2010. From that time to the end of August 2010, there are no more books planned for release.

The speculation is that there are no more Saga Edition books planned at all. This could mean a) they will move to a new edition, or b) that Wizards will not seek to renew their 5-year license.

Just remember that you need to sort out fact from internet rumor, but I thought I would just bring up the subject for the point of discussion.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Given a choice, I'm hoping they'll go for a license renewal than Saga 2.0.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I say we collect some money and get the license ourselves!

Uh? Who's with me?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Erm... what kind of money are we talking here? Rolling Eyes

Might be a thing to consider, but I doubt we will find more then a dozen people here willing to invest over 100 bucks here.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, just kidding there.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That would be hilarious. Let's assume that we could come up with the money (which is a HUGE sum), we could also get the license for D6 (not nearly as much of a sum, but WEG is hard to work with). That would be awesome. (Though, probably much more awesome hypothetically than in reality.)
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gry Sarth wrote:
Galaxy of Intrigue (January 19, 2010)
New rules and character options for campaigns laced with intrigue.
The Star Wars galaxy is rife with treachery and intrigue, from the machinations of Darth Sidious and the Bothan SpyNet to the secret agendas of the Rebel Alliance and the Empire. This supplement gives players and Gamemasters everything they need to run games and play characters in a galaxy of intrigue.
This book provides new options and gear for nobles and other sly-minded characters, as well as a host of adventure hooks and campaign seeds that can be used to inject elements of intrigue into campaigns of all eras. It also includes rules for running skill challenges.

The Unknown Regions (April 20, 2010)
Explore the uncharted reaches of the Star Wars® galaxy.
Far from the cityscape of Coruscant, beyond the fringe planets of the Outer Rim, lies a vast region of space called the Unknown Regions. The Unknown Regions are mysterious and uncharted. They are home to strange aliens, violent slavers, and the forgotten remnants of ancient civilizations that have lived in isolation for eons.
This sourcebook gives players and Gamemasters everything they need to run and play in campaigns featuring scouts, exploration, and adventure in the uncharted reaches of the Star Wars galaxy. The Unknown Regions allows Gamemasters to take their existing campaigns in bold new directions, or this book can be used to jumpstart a new campaign that focuses on exploring the unknown.

Thanks for posting the synopses, Gry!

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That would be hilarious. Let's assume that we could come up with the money (which is a HUGE sum), we could also get the license for D6 (not nearly as much of a sum, but WEG is hard to work with).

Yeah, it's probably be easier to buy WEG than to deal with it. And buying WEG would probably even be cheaper than the Star Wars license. A lottery fantasy of mine is to buy WEG and the Star Wars license to produce new Star Wars D6. If that ever happens I'll hire you, Chesh! Smile

cheshire wrote:
Here are the facts: There are two more books currently planned for WotC through April of 2010. From that time to the end of August 2010, there are no more books planned for release.

The speculation is that there are no more Saga Edition books planned at all. This could mean a) they will move to a new edition, or b) that Wizards will not seek to renew their 5-year license.

Cheshire, please elaborate on the WotC Star Wars "5-year license". WotC has done Star Wars for more than 5 years, but I realize that maybe there was an original 5 years starting in 2000 and a renewal. And was the license a package deal for RPG and miniture gaming too? I say that because 2010 minus 5 years is 2005, and WotC wasn't producing and RPG material in 2005 or 2006. Did WotG have the lisence to produce RPG stuff in 2005-06 and just choose not to? Back then I got the impression that Lucasfilm directed the focus on miniature gaming, but maybe my impression was wrong. Was it WotC alone that thought focusing on miniatures would be more lucrative at the time? So they just put the RPG on the backburner for the Star Wars 30th anniversary instead of having the last Star Wars movie as a business driver for the RPG? It amazes me that there aren't more RPG movie tie-ins, like no new Indiana Jones or Star Trek RPGs. But maybe Star Wars miniatures were just given priotity by WEG at the time?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, I've been really busy and so I've missed a lot of posts that I normally should have caught.

My understanding is (and I could be wrong) that the License from Lucasfilm has to be purchased again every five years. This license is a package deal to produce Star Wars products that fit into the category of roleplaying games. Wizards was skating by insofar as they were classifying the minis as a roleplaying item. Granted this didn't entirely satisfy LFL. The last time the license agreement was re-negotiated was during the lull of the RPG and while the minis game was going as strong as it ever had. My understanding is that during the meeting between WotC and LFL, LFL had asked about their plans to continue roleplaying books and they were very interested in the future of the game. That was when Saga first really started to move alongon the drawing board, though it wasn't published until the 30th anniversary of Star Wars. Unfortunately, I can't remember the exact date was when the meeting had taken place. However rumor has it (granted this is ALL internet rumor) that the license will be expiring again in 2010, and that WotC will have the opportunity to renegotiate the license agreement again for another set period of time. (This would also explain why there is no indication of any minis items after April 2010 as well.)

Licenses for franchise tie-ins aren't indefinite. They're contractual agreements with expiration dates where contracts are re-negotiated after the set preiod of time. That was one of the big deals back in 1999. WEG had put in a bid for the license renewal, but at that time LFL was taking other bids given the financial struggles of WEG at the time. WotC put in a better bid than could WEG, and so they wound up with the license.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Chesire! I've read how busy you were which is why I didn't bug you again for a month. 8) All that makes sense. Thanks for sharing what you've heard. My speculation:

Saga must be selling pretty good for WOTC to keep cranking out books. Even though the economy is even affecting WOTC, it seems to be affecting them the least in the game world. The market seems floaded with D&D 4E books which makes me think they can't be digging too deep of a hole for themselves (I doubt they are in a hole at all for D&D).

So, if WotC still wants Star Wars, I'm sure that no one else will be able to outbid them again. So I expect that by next Spring we will start to hear announcements of more Saga stuff unless WtC doesn't want it anymore.

I don't think they are planning on making a new edition yet since Saga will have less than 3 years when the contract renewal is up. But then again this is WotC we are talking about, the game publisher who loves to sell zillions of books then make a new edition to rehash everything in new editions. Remember D&D 3.5? Saga.5 anyone? Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

More info on the soon-to-be-released Galaxy of Intrigue

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NEW from Star Wars® Roleplaying Games – Galaxy of Intrigue™! Delve into the mysteries and secrets of the Star Wars saga like never before. This book serves as a reference for campaigns involving the secret politics and maneuvering throughout the galaxy, from assassination and sabotage to blackmail and bribery.

Gamemasters will learn how to bring an element of mystery to their campaigns, crafting adventures that reveal layers within layers of intrigue and danger as their heroes delve into them.

Players will find a wealth of new information on how to make the most of heroes who specialize in secret activity or unraveling mysteries, making this book a must-have for anyone playing in or running a campaign full of secrets.

Galaxy of Intrigue includes:

* Details an entirely-new planet
* Focuses on mystery, subterfuge, and conspiracies
* Tons of new options for many character types
* A complete adventure

Release Date: January 19, 2010


Humm... looks a bit life a shelf warmer there. Not very interested in this one, which is good since it seems there won't be hardly anything to convert from it.
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