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jmanski Arbiter-General (Moderator)
Joined: 06 Mar 2005 Posts: 2065 Location: Kansas
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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Thats some good stuff. I too think 1 in 6 is a little too often. I might try 1 in 36- just often enough to keep the anxiety level elevated. _________________ Blasted rules. Why can't they just be perfect? |
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Ankhanu Vice Admiral
Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 3089 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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I must have missed something earlier where there was a 1:6 possibility of complication. We've always played a 1 followed by a 6 was a complication. A 1 normally just reduces your total, increasing the chance of failure, but not something spectacular _________________ Hotaru no Hishou; a messageboard about games, friends and nothing at all.
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Delkarnu Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 02 Sep 2008 Posts: 189 Location: Saratoga Springs, Upstate NY
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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The rule book pretty much says roll a 1 GM chooses the result, count normally, minus highest, or complication, so I think a lot of newer GMs use the complication or mishap too often.
The first games I played in, we pretty much had a mishap on every wild 1 for actions, minus highest for damage, almost killed the d6 system for me until I convinced the GM that it was unrealistic and he changed it. |
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Gry Sarth Jedi
Joined: 25 May 2004 Posts: 5304 Location: Sao Paulo - Brazil
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:34 am Post subject: |
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We play it simple. A very low roll is a mishap and a very high roll is an extraordinary success. Rolling 1s and 6s in the Wild Die will affect how high or low your total is (by subtracting higher or rerolling) but in itself it will not automatically mean an extraordinary event; what you roll in the other dice is also very important. _________________ "He's Gry Sarth, of course he has the stats for them." |
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masque Captain
Joined: 16 Mar 2006 Posts: 626 Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:41 am Post subject: |
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I agree with Gry. Not always, but most of the time, when one rolls a 1 on the Wild Die, we simply subtract the highest die from the roll; it hurts, but doesn't necessarily spell disaster. When rolling a 6 on the Wild, we allow a reroll on that die, with another reroll if one rolls another 6, etc. We're playing HARP now, but when my group plays D6, we've never had a problem with it. Occasionally, we forgo that when the GM (me or the other guy I share Gm duties with) has something specific in mind as a "complication", but for the most part, the "drop highest on 1, reroll (open-ended) on 6" works for us. _________________ Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid. |
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cheshire Arbiter-General (Moderator)
Joined: 04 Jan 2004 Posts: 4855
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:01 am Post subject: |
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I'm not particularly consistent when it comes to how I play a 1. I usually base it on the situation. Usually I opt for the "plot complication" route. That doesn't mean that the player's roll doesn't succeed, just that when they succeed at what they were doing, it might have had some unintended consequences.
Of course there are other times I'll do the "take out the highest and lowest" route, and other times I'll just say, "leave it in there and calculate normally." However, that's usually when there isn't a complication that seems dramatically appropriate. _________________ __________________________________
Before we take any of this too seriously, just remember that in the middle episode a little rubber puppet moves a spaceship with his mind. |
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Delkarnu Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 02 Sep 2008 Posts: 189 Location: Saratoga Springs, Upstate NY
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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One other thing that I consider is the relative challenge of the task, someone with a D or 2 in (A) Medicine, is lot less likely to get a complication on a moderate first aid roll than someone with only 3D first aid working on the higher end of their skill set for the same roll |
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garhkal Sovereign Protector
Joined: 17 Jul 2005 Posts: 14228 Location: Reynoldsburg, Columbus, Ohio.
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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The only time i will definatly make the 1 on the wild die a complication, is if all the others are also a 1... That to me is a pinical moment of complication. _________________ Confucious sayeth, don't wash cat while drunk! |
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jmanski Arbiter-General (Moderator)
Joined: 06 Mar 2005 Posts: 2065 Location: Kansas
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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For clarification: when I said "complication", I meant a reduction in the roll. I think 1 in 6 is too often to even affect the roll. I may change to 1 in 36 (or two straight 1's) for a reduction (-1d) and 1 in 216 (3 straight 1's) for a complication (unless I'm feeling evil of course) _________________ Blasted rules. Why can't they just be perfect? |
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garhkal Sovereign Protector
Joined: 17 Jul 2005 Posts: 14228 Location: Reynoldsburg, Columbus, Ohio.
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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Wow that is lienient. I take it you also do the same for 6's?? _________________ Confucious sayeth, don't wash cat while drunk! |
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Ankhanu Vice Admiral
Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 3089 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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Half the fun is dealing with (or coming up with) the complications
And I say this as a man who rolls a lot of 1s followed by 6s.
The chaos that the wild die represents is such a delightfully (classic) Star Wars theme. There's always something going catastrophically wrong in the (original) movies... I've got a bad feeling about this... Likewise, they're full of unexpected spectacular successes (... don't get cocky!). Reducing the chances of these themes reduces the Star Warsiness of it all (imo, of course).
Long live the Wild Die and 1 in 36 chance of catastrophe (or just something to make things more interesting)! Viva la complication! _________________ Hotaru no Hishou; a messageboard about games, friends and nothing at all.
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garhkal Sovereign Protector
Joined: 17 Jul 2005 Posts: 14228 Location: Reynoldsburg, Columbus, Ohio.
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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The most well known complication i have is if they do an astrogation jump with one, EVEN if they make the number, they fry the nav comp so have to get a full repair and reload...... _________________ Confucious sayeth, don't wash cat while drunk! |
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DarthMortis Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 23 Sep 2008 Posts: 124 Location: Moorhead
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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garhkal wrote: | The most well known complication i have is if they do an astrogation jump with one, EVEN if they make the number, they fry the nav comp so have to get a full repair and reload...... |
The last Jedi in my first did that on my Con Artists ship...oh man, was he pissed (I mean come on, I used that ship so much, I had a specialization in it that was like 8D+2 or 9D) _________________ "I believe the Jedi are weak so they give up their emotions. I believe the Sith are weak so they give up to their emotions. I lay somewhere in the middle, not afraid to keep my emotions, but afraid to lose myself in them." - Daroth Mortanis |
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adamlumina93 Lieutenant
Joined: 07 Nov 2005 Posts: 87
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Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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i think over my 13 years in playing this game I believe I have come up with a system that seems to please most players I have played with. For 6s on the wild die keep the same rules. For 1s I would propose the following: subtract the one and the highest other dice in the roll, not a catastrophe just a minor hiccup. Now if the majority of dice including the wild die are 1s then it is a major complication. To be honest at that I think its justified that their character just didn't put their best foot forward. |
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garhkal Sovereign Protector
Joined: 17 Jul 2005 Posts: 14228 Location: Reynoldsburg, Columbus, Ohio.
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Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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DarthMortis wrote: | garhkal wrote: | The most well known complication i have is if they do an astrogation jump with one, EVEN if they make the number, they fry the nav comp so have to get a full repair and reload...... |
The last Jedi in my first did that on my Con Artists ship...oh man, was he pissed (I mean come on, I used that ship so much, I had a specialization in it that was like 8D+2 or 9D) |
Yup. I cannot remember where i saw it, but i did see figures for replacing a full nav comp at 15% of a ships full cost (even if you bought it used). _________________ Confucious sayeth, don't wash cat while drunk! |
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