Character Point "Miscalculations."

[Esoomian]

In our gaming group all sheets are handed over to the GM at the end of the session. Not from lack of trust but just so they're always in the same place and we don't have to worry about loosing them.

[cheshire]

That's generally been the practice in my group. There was only one person who refused to do that, so every couple of months I'd scan his character sheet.

He got a nasty shock one day when he forgot to bring his, and so I printed up his most recent scan. Fe felt like he was doing combat with shackles on.

After that, he left his sheet with me.

[vong]

lol, thats awesome. I uusually let my players pick what they want to do.

but as soon as i finish my chr creator we can both have them lol
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[AcesAndEights]

Well the situation was resolved tonight. A portion of our group had bounties on them and the bounty hunter was Anzati. One of us came back to the ship to find the player in question being fed upon. He lost 2D in dex, which was at 4D base, and all of his dex skills went back to 2D+1. We also figured out where he made his 'mistake,' but the all of us felt he was lying. Either way though, he will be monitored in the future so this cannot happen again.

[PsiberDragon]

Interesting way to bring him back in line. Kudos for orginality on that one.
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[vong]

yea, that is unique lol. its funny tho, if i did that to the player in my group who tends to cheat (who is a good fridn if mine) he would blow his top and get all pissed that im nerfing his character and such.
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[AcesAndEights]

I thought it was too. What was really interesting though is that my character was the only one with any experience with Anzati and I didn't bother to share my knowledge...so the player didn't figure out what happened until he tried *dodge* to several turbo laser bolts. Needless to say, after that he spent the rest of the session in a bacta tank.

[vong]

lol, good fun

i think the meanist thing ive done to my players so far is put a tracking device in one player, and put a virus in their R2 unit, letting the pirate gang that is looking for them know where they are and track their movements
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[scott2978]

I'd make the character suffer a permanant debilitating injury that permanantly lowered at least one attribute. I'd do this each time it happened.

[Endwyn]

What power level were these characters at? It seems like they all were "epic scale".
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[AcesAndEights]

Well, the one is the Jedi campaign(the one who has has control snuffed) was a pretty high level. He had 14D in all force attributes. Now mind you, this game has been going on far longer then I've been there. Its approaching the two year mark and I believe they started on a slightly higher scale in the first place. His score were off by like 2D total, so we're talking maybe 40-50 CP. We know his was an error and we figured out what happened. The GM still nuked his control though, all 14D of it.

The other one is a recently started campaign(December I believe.) The character who had issues here had 14D in dodge, 9D in blaster, and 8D in Sniper(a), not to mention several of his other skills were quite high as well. His 'error' was gross. We figured everything out and he had spend 950 character points on his skills when between 200 and 250 CP had been issued.

[garhkal]

Pity the gm did not have them using a sheet where they kept trak of all expenditures etc..

Module. CP spent Skills (and attributes) being increased.
STARTING 221 See attached list with character sheet.
Sparks 15 classic 7 Firearms from 6d+1 to 6d+2 (6 points)
Sparks 12C classic 10 Firearms from 6d+2 to 7d (6 points) and Firearm Repair from 4d+2 to 5d (4 points)

As an example..
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[Endwyn]

Well, the Jedi might not have been a mistake. The rules for advancing force skills with an instructor make it impossible to calculate the exact cost unless the character has always or never had an instructor.

We've had groups that have had jedi PC's instructing the other PC's in different aspects of the force at times and then not being able to latter, and then back and forth. That kind of thing (or just having a brief instructor) can make it almost impossible (usually impossible flat out) to calculate what you did spend. (You need good notes to know latter.)

Now, I'm not saying that he might not have cheated, or that it wasn't an honest math error, just that it might not be either of those and might have all been legit.

IMPO, it is harsh to penalize the player that much if it is truly believed to be an honest mistake. (Unless this is part of a plot arc that will allow him to restore at least most of that.)
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[AcesAndEights]

Thats one of the reasons I posted here. I felt the Jedi's punishment was way too harsh. 14D is a lot to penalize someone, especially when they are almost completely combat driven(no control=no lightsaber combat.)

I personally thought the other player got what they deserved, or maybe even a little less than they deserved. It takes a lot of effort to be 950 CPs off and its not like the guy is new to the system. He has been playing for at least two years, so he can't blame it on experience...

[Endwyn]

Well, the worst part is that by not having any control they lose acess to any force power that uses control at all.....which is a large portion of the force powers.

Is it possible that the player had had instruction on and off so that the exact cost would be impossible to recalculate?
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And Leia is your sister!
That's improbable?
And the Empire will be destroyed by..EWOKS!
That's...highly unlikely.
The Force? Bacteria called midichlorians.
If you don’t take this seriously I'm out.