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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2024 4:35 pm    Post subject: TPM 25 Years! Reply with quote

https://www.starwars.com/news/the-phantom-menace-25th-anniversary

Not completely unsurprisingly, The Phantom Menace is returning to the theater in May for its 25th anniversary.

Even though I was in my 20s, I remember how excited I was for the first new Star Wars movie since the CT in my childhood. Since the RPG. A long 16 year wait. Expectations were built up high.

The film didn't just live up to my expectations. It surpassed them. Epic action adventure. Submarines and sea monsters. A Ben Hur chariot race SW-style. The twins' mother. Young Obi-Wan's Jedi trial and Master. The beginning of Vader's fall to the Dark Side and the rise of the Emperor. A masterfully designed 4-stage final battle sequence. A superlative John Williams musical score.

The first time I watched it, I was so caught up in the wonder of it all that it didn't even occur to me that Darth Sidious was Palpatine until the camera panned to Palpatine at Qui-Gon's funeral. The phantom menace! The Sith return, insidiously! Genius!

TPM made me feel like a little kid again. And in my early 50s, it still does. Haters gonna hate, but I deeply love this film. I'm so happy that my son will finally get to see it in the theater, and I get to take him.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still find it a great movie as well. I think we're outliers within the larger community, but I still think it's a lot of fun!
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2024 1:13 pm    Post subject: Re: TPM 25 Years! Reply with quote

Today is the 25th anniversary of TPM, and the 19th anniversary of RotS, two of my favorite films. I hope they rerelease RotS next year for its 20th anniversary.

My son and I did see TPM in the theater on May 5th (he originally wanted to go May 4th, but he was out of town on a band trip). It was great to hear the Williams films score in surround sound.
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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2024 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree that TPM is a much better movie than it gets credit for.

I went to see it on the 5th as well, with some of my family. It was nice to see on the big screen again for the first time since the 3D re-release back in 2012. The theater I went to definitely put it in their worst auditorium though.

Seeing it again made me wonder if it was just my childhood memories that made me think the movie looked better when it came out back in 1999. After going down a bit of a rabbit hole, I was able to find a re-scan of an original 35mm 1999 film release online. It looks remarkably better without all the post-processing they've applied to the modern digital releases. Film grain goes a long way toward helping dated cgi to feel more at home on the screen. I highly recommend seeking this out online to anyone interested (for fairly obvious reasons I won't be sharing any links publicly).
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 2:43 pm    Post subject: TPM Reply with quote

DougRed4 wrote:
I still find it a great movie as well. I think we're outliers within the larger community, but I still think it's a lot of fun!

Well that depends on your specific zoom level of the "community." For First generation Star Wars fans such as ourselves, yes, I agree that we are outliers.

Zoom out to include the PT generation and TPM love is much less fringe. It is the second highest domestic-grossing film of the six Lucas films when adjusted for inflation. TPM is very popular as a whole.

I think it is just that the animosity for TPM is more vocal and we are more in that audience (the age range of most of the haters).

DeltaFolee wrote:
I agree that TPM is a much better movie than it gets credit for.

I went to see it on the 5th as well, with some of my family. It was nice to see on the big screen again for the first time since the 3D re-release back in 2012. The theater I went to definitely put it in their worst auditorium though.

Seeing it again made me wonder if it was just my childhood memories that made me think the movie looked better when it came out back in 1999. After going down a bit of a rabbit hole, I was able to find a re-scan of an original 35mm 1999 film release online. It looks remarkably better without all the post-processing they've applied to the modern digital releases. Film grain goes a long way toward helping dated cgi to feel more at home on the screen.

After seeing SW films made in every decade since the 70s, we each have our specific tolerances for effects. Some are very strongly in the all-muppets-good/all-CG-bad camp, and some are opposite. It's nice to hear more middle perspectives.

I've found that I am not bothered by the high-definition update to the film because they fixed the worst effects issues along with it (mostly with the 2011 blu-ray version). Personally, I'll never go back to that horrible TPM-muppet Yoda. Even most CT fans agree that the CG-Yoda looks much more like the original muppet than the TPM muppet.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 5:21 pm    Post subject: Re: TPM Reply with quote

Whill wrote:
DougRed4 wrote:
I still find it a great movie as well. I think we're outliers within the larger community, but I still think it's a lot of fun!

Well that depends on your specific zoom level of the "community." For First generation Star Wars fans such as ourselves, yes, I agree that we are outliers.

Zoom out to include the PT generation and TPM love is much less fringe. It is the second highest domestic-grossing film of the six Lucas films when adjusted for inflation. TPM is very popular as a whole.

I think it is just that the animosity for TPM is more vocal and we are more in that audience (the age range of most of the haters).



Agreed. My kids (and others of their age-group) often prefer the PT to the OT.
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