8k,19k Super star destroyer discrepancy?

[CRMcNeill]

[Inquisitor1138]

[garhkal]

[CRMcNeill]

“If it’s not broken…”
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[KageRyu]

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I, too, feel updating all of the capital ship speeds would make them faster than fighters, which is counter to what is shown in film. That's my thoughts.

Also, as I recall, the Falcon was not only not fully repaired, but had been partly sabotaged. While only the Hyperdrive is mentioned specifically, it makes sense they may have mucked up other systems? I would also not that even if the Falcon could outrun the SSD, it would take time to get out of range of it's weapons batteries, and they would still face continued threat from it's fighter compliment, and the likelihood additional vessels would be called in to capture them. While much of this may not have been expressly said in ESB, it is all within what I would consider common knowledge that would make jumping to lightspeed the only means of escape.
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[CRMcNeill]

[Dr. Bidlo]

I just rewatched the scene at the end of ESB. Check it out at https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k7jWqD3Zs9Q.

The Falcon flies directly to the Executor, along its 'trench' and past its stem. It then continues gaining distance from the Execeutors with the TIEs still in close pursuit. I don't think we learn much of the Executor's speed from this because it did not catch the Falcon at all - the Falcon flew to it. We do know it was slower than the Falcon since the Falcon shot past its length and bow. We also learned that tractor beams must have a really short and fixed forward fire arc... man when was it ever going to be in range??? The Death Star caught the Falcon in its tractor bean when it still looked like a small moon in the distance!

I still like making the Executor faster than Space 4 though.

[Dr. Bidlo]

[CRMcNeill]

[Whill]

A lesser Poggle once said, "RR 'kua-edo a'ai."

[Whill]

[garhkal]

[Inquisitor1138]

((Palpatine voice)) "Ironic..."

"Space Opera" was neither my defense nor justification for the Empire's 'Space 7" fleet in my SWU. It was intended as a polite reminder we are playing a game, where what rules of the real world apply is at our discretion, regardless of what rationale is behind it, the main things are consistency & everyone having fun.

Whill makes a damned good point. We are, each and every one of us, an individual, with unique perspectives, thought processes & ways of doing things. We are shaped by our individual circumstances & experiences into ever more unique individuals.
We have different perspectives & see or interpret things differently. Situations that are problems for some aren't necessarily problems for all. There are problems we all have, but we resolve them differently...

Regarding my rationale for the Space 7 Imperial Fleet, i thought about what the Admiralty would think & came to the conclusion they'd be of a mind of "We can do it, we have the technology. So why not?"
The Admiralty would then have to make a good case for it to the Emperor, to bypass & override the naysayers in the Senate. In my SWU, the Emperor approved a faster, stronger, more aggressive fleet. Consequences be damned. Consequences to the common folk are beneath his concern... But there are consequences...
Victory II Star Destroyers being specifically made faster than Victory I Star Destroyers as a key change made with refitting them. This may have started in the EU but became, and remains, canon.
As per cost-cutting measures, the Empire refits older warships like the Dreadnought heavy cruisers to keep them competitive with newer ships. They get & upgrade civilian transports like Gozanti cruisers in bulk as cheap alternatives to constructing new capital ships.
Making their ships faster as a standard, has many advantages that make it worth the cost. Key among them, is helping to ensure the investment in making/upgrading these ships is not wasted.
Will this make it harder to evade Imperial pursuit? Definitely.
Will it make escape/evasion impossible? Not necessarily. Now & then, perhaps, but not every encounter.
Will players have to get more creative? God i hope so!



The Rian reference/allegation was a low blow.
I have never had the intention of f------- over/alienating half my audience/players. Thank God my approval rating was & still is so much higher than the aforementioned mister johnson's...
The only player who never liked my way of GM-ing, was a fellow who started giving me unsolicited GM advice from day one. He chose to play a Scout, but adamantly refused to do any scouting or scout-related activity, giving a 'nope! I ain't doing it' to any & all opportunities i gave him were his character could shine... Worse, he played his character like he was in a ghetto in Shadowrun or Cyberpunk, not Star Wars. I had to kick him out because he was getting on the other players' nerves.

[Whill]

Sorry, I wasn't trying to blow, low or otherwise. My point was, even if a GM here went above and beyond what you are doing, and made all capital ships the same speed with only different fuel capacities, it still shouldn't bother anyone else if they aren't a player in that game.
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[Dr. Bidlo]

I think it is also worth mentioning that those of us who GM also must consider our players and what they like as well. I don't use a few house rules I really like because my players do not like them.