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So, in D6 Fantasy, Longbows do Str+2D+2 damage.* A javelin does Str+2D damage. However, D6 Fantasy does not have damage caps on strength weapons.
With exceptionally high strength characters (such as a Wookie), what kind of damage caps would you put in? How do you deal with strength caps where the weapon becomes superfluous (such as a high-strength wookie never wanting a dagger, since he can punch harder than a knife is capable of doing)?
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The balancing factor in D6 Fantasy is that strength damage is half their Strength Attribute or Lifting Skill. A Wookiee would need a 12D Lifting to get their full 6D Strength added to that longbow or javelin.
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The rule is also overly simplistic as to the physics of bows. Bows have a max pull strength, as in, you can only get so much kinetic energy out of it before it either can't get pulled any further or it snaps. A Bow that allows a Wookiee to take full advantage of his Strength would have to be an absolute monster of a custom-made bow.
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For a bow I am not sure, we do have bows in real world that has quite te draw power, so yes I can accept something like this.
Though in general I would give some bows simply a strength requiremnet to use and depending on the bow's power make it 2-4D damage maybe even a 5D.
yes a 5D bow sounds a lot, but look at the actual facts regarding a real war bow and you see that it has a 2-300yard kill range, making it obvious that it has a high damage, so for the monster of monster bows I would consider a 5D realm of damage, though I would give most bows 2D-4D. |
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| Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 3:34 pm Post subject: Re: Wookie with a Longbow |
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| MrNexx wrote: | So, in D6 Fantasy, Longbows do Str+2D+2 damage.* A javelin does Str+2D damage. However, D6 Fantasy does not have damage caps on strength weapons.
With exceptionally high strength characters (such as a Wookie), what kind of damage caps would you put in? How do you deal with strength caps where the weapon becomes superfluous (such as a high-strength wookie never wanting a dagger, since he can punch harder than a knife is capable of doing)? |
I've often been against max damage caps for melee weapons CAUSE Of that issue "wookies being easier to go with brawl/martial arts, than melee".
That said, the LOGIC for max damage on weapons, is sound.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 3:56 pm Post subject: Re: Wookie with a Longbow |
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| MrNexx wrote: | So, in D6 Fantasy, Longbows do Str+2D+2 damage.* A javelin does Str+2D damage. However, D6 Fantasy does not have damage caps on strength weapons.
With exceptionally high strength characters (such as a Wookie), what kind of damage caps would you put in? How do you deal with strength caps where the weapon becomes superfluous (such as a high-strength wookie never wanting a dagger, since he can punch harder than a knife is capable of doing)? |
Keep in mind, most physical weapons have a damage cap. In the case of a compound bow I would say max 6D physical damage, though 5D could be argued.
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Rather than just a fixed cap on the Damage rolled, how about anything over the Damage Cap is rolled as Damage against the weapon itself?
Say you have a Wookiee with 6D Strength. They're wielding a Vibro-Axe (Str+3D+1, Max 7D). Combined, the Wookiee will inflict 9D+1 Damage, which is 2D+1 over the Cap. Per the Damaged Weapon rules in the RAW, most weapons have a Strength (for Damage purposes only) of 2D. So, roll 2D+1 against 2D and apply the result to the Damaged Weapon chart.
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| CRMcNeill wrote: | Rather than just a fixed cap on the Damage rolled, how about anything over the Damage Cap is rolled as Damage against the weapon itself?
Say you have a Wookiee with 6D Strength. They're wielding a Vibro-Axe (Str+3D+1, Max 7D). Combined, the Wookiee will inflict 9D+1 Damage, which is 2D+1 over the Cap. Per the Damaged Weapon rules in the RAW, most weapons have a Strength (for Damage purposes only) of 2D. So, roll 2D+1 against 2D and apply the result to the Damaged Weapon chart. |
THIS!
It makes perfect sense!
If we take a bow, I would think that with enough pull strength you can actually "break" the bow.
I woiuld imagine that a wookie, capable of pulling stormtroopers appart would have a strenght enough to on a bow pull it so hard it even collapse.
and as to a sword or a club, his so hard that the weapon is damaged, yes this makes alot of sense.
I am usure if there are any xD+x Max XD that would make a human with 2D-average- strenght having to worry about damaging a weapon through hard blows |
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Depends what it is. A 2D Strength human smacking someone with a broomstick with a Maximum Damage of 2D could very easily break it over someone's head long before they do any damage with it. Most of the weapons that really pack a bunch are going to be specifically designed and built to take a pounding.
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| CRMcNeill wrote: | Rather than just a fixed cap on the Damage rolled, how about anything over the Damage Cap is rolled as Damage against the weapon itself?
Say you have a Wookiee with 6D Strength. They're wielding a Vibro-Axe (Str+3D+1, Max 7D). Combined, the Wookiee will inflict 9D+1 Damage, which is 2D+1 over the Cap. Per the Damaged Weapon rules in the RAW, most weapons have a Strength (for Damage purposes only) of 2D. So, roll 2D+1 against 2D and apply the result to the Damaged Weapon chart. |
That's a HR i've often mentioned. IF you wish to exceed a weapon's max damage cap, go ahead,but any damage you roll OVER that cap, is applied as damage AGAINST the weapon.
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