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As pointed out over on the Holonet, a Bwing has a LOWER hull than both an Xwing and Ywing, yet is supposed to be a more 'robust' heavy fighter/bomber>
SO has anyone figured out WHY the Bwing has such a low hull?
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| Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 1:30 am Post subject: Re: Bwing strangeness |
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| garhkal wrote: | As pointed out over on the Holonet, a Bwing has a LOWER hull than both an Xwing and Ywing, yet is supposed to be a more 'robust' heavy fighter/bomber>
SO has anyone figured out WHY the Bwing has such a low hull? |
Poor design. The Hull value on a stat isn't just a measurement of armor thickness; it's an aggregate of all the factors that contribute to a ship's ability to absorb damage. The B-Wing may have heavy armor and shields, but lack the redundant backup systems and in-flight repair systems controlled by the astromech. There is also the potential for failure due to damage to the gyro-cockpit function.
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Personally, I always thought of the B-Wing as more of a glass cannon myself. It's extremely powerful offensively, but it's gyro design makes it rather week.
This also explains why the Y-wing is still in service despite it's age of service.
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| Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 10:46 am Post subject: Re: Bwing strangeness |
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| CRMcNeill wrote: | | Poor design. |
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| Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 11:23 am Post subject: Re: Bwing strangeness |
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| CRMcNeill wrote: | | garhkal wrote: | As pointed out over on the Holonet, a Bwing has a LOWER hull than both an Xwing and Ywing, yet is supposed to be a more 'robust' heavy fighter/bomber>
SO has anyone figured out WHY the Bwing has such a low hull? |
Poor design. The Hull value on a stat isn't just a measurement of armor thickness; it's an aggregate of all the factors that contribute to a ship's ability to absorb damage. The B-Wing may have heavy armor and shields, but lack the redundant backup systems and in-flight repair systems controlled by the astromech. There is also the potential for failure due to damage to the gyro-cockpit function. |
This is why zombie movies have people mounting machine guns on pick up trucks, not a 1981 Porsche 928.
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From a strictly mathematical standpoint, the B-Wing is pretty tough. With a 3D Hull and 2D Shields, it's a match for the 4D+1D of the X-Wing, which also had a reputation for toughness.
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| Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 11:23 pm Post subject: Re: Bwing strangeness |
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| garhkal wrote: | As pointed out over on the Holonet, a Bwing has a LOWER hull than both an Xwing and Ywing, yet is supposed to be a more 'robust' heavy fighter/bomber>
SO has anyone figured out WHY the Bwing has such a low hull? |
My impression from the The Star Wars Sourcebook in the 1e days (where these Hull stats came from) was that the X-wing and Y-wing Hulls were higher because they had astromechs that can do in-flight repairs. But they never came out and codified that as far as I remember.
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| CRMcNeill wrote: | | From a strictly mathematical standpoint, the B-Wing is pretty tough. With a 3D Hull and 2D Shields, it's a match for the 4D+1D of the X-Wing, which also had a reputation for toughness. |
Maybe but you need to get shields UP and BTB Ion cannons ignore shields..
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Which TIE fighters have ion cannon?
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So, the prototype, extremely rare elite fighter. Of course, if you start introducing TIEs from the X-Wing games, you also open the door to the X-Wing games' rules for ion cannon, specifically, that they didn't just ignore shields.
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So, if the Ion cannons ignore shields, and part of a hull rating is based on structural shields, do Ion cannons ignore part of the hull rating?
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| CRMcNeill wrote: | | Which TIE fighters have ion cannon? |
Besides fighting Imps, Bwings DO get used to pound pirates (who often are equipped with Skiprays and ywings, both of which have ion cannons)..
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| garhkal wrote: | | CRMcNeill wrote: | | Which TIE fighters have ion cannon? |
Besides fighting Imps, Bwings DO get used to pound pirates (who often are equipped with Skiprays and ywings, both of which have ion cannons).. |
Well, that's not really a problem for me, as I've long used different house rules for ion cannon, specifically, that they don't get to ignore shields.
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