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Naaman Vice Admiral
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2016 10:24 pm Post subject: A-Wing's Armament |
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Some sources show the A-Wing as being equipped with concussion missiles, while WEG material so far as I can tell, has them equipped with laser cannons only.
Considering the A-Wing's mission, what do you guys think makes most sense? Should it have missiles, or just guns? |
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CRMcNeill Director of Engineering
Joined: 05 Apr 2010 Posts: 16283 Location: Redding System, California Sector, on the I-5 Hyperspace Route.
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2016 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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Here you go.
The missile and auto-fire rules have evolved a little since I posted this, but the basic theory is there. _________________ "No set of rules can cover every situation. It's expected that you will make up new rules to suit the needs of your game." - The Star Wars Roleplaying Game, 2R&E, pg. 69, WEG, 1996.
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shootingwomprats Rear Admiral
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2016 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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RZ-1 A-Wing interceptor (canon version)
2 Laser Cannons (fire-linked)
2 Concussion Missile Launchers (fire-linked, 6 missiles each)
RZ-1 A-Wing interceptor (WEG/Legends version)
2 Laser Cannons (fire-linked)
1 Enemy Targeting Jammer
1 Chaff/Flare Countermeasures
Many fans have inferred this to mean there are two version of the A-Wing.
In Legends the A-Wing was slow to produce and first saw deployment in 0 ABY and was scarce even up to the Battle of Endor four years later. Shortly after the Battle of Endor the second generation A-Wing Mark II rolled out. The big difference on the Mark II was the laser cannons were configured for 360-degree rotation, giving a wider field of fire.
In new canon there isn't much information about the A-Wing yet. We know it is fully tested and in production as of 4 BBY as we see it used exclusively by Phoenix Squadron.
In the end, you're going to have to decide what you want to go with: 1. Canon, 2. Legends and make some inferrences, or 3. Hash canon and Legends to fit your SWU. _________________ Don Diestler
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garhkal Sovereign Protector
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 12:05 am Post subject: |
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I have always been one of those seeing the A wing with 2 versions. One with the Concussion missile launcher, one with the jammer.. _________________ Confucious sayeth, don't wash cat while drunk! |
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Naaman Vice Admiral
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 2:31 am Post subject: |
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The more I think about it, the more I prefer a compromise betwen the either/or position and the has-them-both position.
I'm thinking that the most "interesting" and plot worthy solution would be to give all A-Wings a jammer and a limited capacity missile tube. Either give them one instead of two tubes, or give them a twin-linked deal, but with a grand total of 6 (or maybe just 4) missiles.
The idea would be that they are used for a lighting assault/surgical strike against larger craft, using their speed and their guns to fight their way to the target and then deliver the payload on the way out. |
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CRMcNeill Director of Engineering
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 10:39 am Post subject: |
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An alternate possibility would be to limit the A-Wing's fire control jamming to a single arc, rather than all of them at once. The pilot would have to preselect which arc would be the primary threat axis.
I would agree that 12 missiles seems a bit much, but two different non-WEG sources confirm it. The first was Starlog Magazine's Rebel Alliance Technical Manual, which simply said the A-Wing had two 6-round launchers without actually explaining how they did it. The Incredible Cross-Sections book built on that idea by showing the launchers as single-shot tubes lined up side-by-side. Both sources also specifically mentioned that the Alliance-era A-Wing was equipped with both missiles and the FC jammer. I don't have access to my books at the moment but, IIRC, the cross section book specifically labeled the jammer on the A-Wing's interior.
So I didn't just pull it out of my @$$. _________________ "No set of rules can cover every situation. It's expected that you will make up new rules to suit the needs of your game." - The Star Wars Roleplaying Game, 2R&E, pg. 69, WEG, 1996.
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MrNexx Rear Admiral
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 10:56 am Post subject: |
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I could see them being deployed in mixed groups, with the launcher version being more common, while the jammer version might be along to help with both dogfighting and defense while the missile-carrying versions perform strikes. _________________ "I've Seen Your Daily Routine. You Are Not Busy!"
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Naaman Vice Admiral
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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There is a character I am working on who is a pilot without a ship. Eventually, he/she (haven't decided if character will be male or female yet) comes across an early prototype A wing that had been shot down quite some time ago.
The character spends months restoring it and takes it for a test flight. During the flight, s/he encounters some pre-alliance rebels being attacked by pirates, joins the fight and saves the day, and is asked to join the cause. The story takes place during the purge, as the rebel alliance is still "in utero" so-to-speak.
This incident reinviorates the A-Wing project, as well, but for the time being, there are only a few (less than 10) such craft in the fleet.
So, for these few, I'm thinking that the idea could be that they have some missiles and the jammer, and the laser cannons, with some later models eschewing one or the other in order to save on production costs... and then when the alliance is in full swing, they can have the 12 missiles and the jammer as well. |
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garhkal Sovereign Protector
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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Naaman wrote: | There is a character I am working on who is a pilot without a ship. Eventually, he/she (haven't decided if character will be male or female yet) comes across an early prototype A wing that had been shot down quite some time ago.
The character spends months restoring it and takes it for a test flight. |
If its only a prototype that's been lingering for a while, where's he getting the repair parts to restore it from? _________________ Confucious sayeth, don't wash cat while drunk! |
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Naaman Vice Admiral
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Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 1:24 am Post subject: |
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Well, its a prototype that was shot down or malfunctioned or whatever and crash landed. It was discovered by the "hero" who canibalized other ships from the local ship graveyard/junk yard to make it space-worthy, and in doing so, actually solved one of the design problems, making it a little better than the original designerrs intended.
The hero is a pilot in a similar way that Luke was: not much experience with spacecraft, but plenty with with airspeeders and what have you. |
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garhkal Sovereign Protector
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Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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So did he just have Starfighter repair, or engineering, which imo is what would have been needed to jury rig in OTHER parts to fix what was missing/damaged beyond repair? _________________ Confucious sayeth, don't wash cat while drunk! |
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Naaman Vice Admiral
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Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know. We'll flesh out the detaiils later.
Did you ever see Flight of the Phoenix? |
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garhkal Sovereign Protector
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2016 12:20 am Post subject: |
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Yes i did. BUT the one with Quaid in, DID have someone who was an engineer at least. _________________ Confucious sayeth, don't wash cat while drunk! |
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CRMcNeill Director of Engineering
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2016 6:50 am Post subject: |
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And the plane they ended up with sure wasn't the plane they started with. At best, you're talking about an Ugly with A-Wing parts... _________________ "No set of rules can cover every situation. It's expected that you will make up new rules to suit the needs of your game." - The Star Wars Roleplaying Game, 2R&E, pg. 69, WEG, 1996.
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Naaman Vice Admiral
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2016 10:09 am Post subject: |
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No I'm not!
Its akin to swapping a chevy crate motor into a ford. Its all doable with the repair skill in the garage or back yard. But the skill selection process hasn't even begun yet.
The point of the character is to create a story that focuses on the A-Wing's proof of concept. The story is about why the A-Wing made it into service and how it is used to fight the empire. |
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